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I'm wondering if high strength Guards who are basically built to pancake defenders every play could work?

I mean a G with 110+ strength in the level 20s, only soft capping blocking, then getting high agility, speed and vision.

pancakes don't work, period. otherwise nice idea. but no, you wont get enough pancakes for it to matter

Originally posted by Viscount
I'm wondering if high strength Guards who are basically built to pancake defenders every play could work?

I mean a G with 110+ strength in the level 20s, only soft capping blocking, then getting high agility, speed and vision.

PLus I just reverse pancaked a guard with 90 str more than a few times last game, and I don't think he pancaked my D.T. once, with 71 str.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Viscount

I'm wondering if high strength Guards who are basically built to pancake defenders every play could work?

I mean a G with 110+ strength in the level 20s, only soft capping blocking, then getting high agility, speed and vision.

PLus I just reverse pancaked a guard with 90 str more than a few times last game, and I don't think he pancaked my D.T. once, with 71 str.

110 is higher than 90.

Originally posted by Viscount
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Viscount


I'm wondering if high strength Guards who are basically built to pancake defenders every play could work?

I mean a G with 110+ strength in the level 20s, only soft capping blocking, then getting high agility, speed and vision.

PLus I just reverse pancaked a guard with 90 str more than a few times last game, and I don't think he pancaked my D.T. once, with 71 str.

110 is higher than 90.

are you serious?

Check your PMs Viscount, I sent you something not fit for the eyes of commoners.

Originally posted by Octowned
pancakes don't work, period. otherwise nice idea. but no, you wont get enough pancakes for it to matter

I'm not sure what you mean? Don't work how?

I mean in the last two seasons playing with 85 strength and 6 in pancake, my OT got 0 pancakes unless playing a gutted team. Basically in my whole career, no pancakes. I've seen no evidence of stronger / higher pancake really doing much better, either. DEs today have like 55 strength, tops, and if 85 + high SA can't knock them down, nothing will. Abandon ship!

Originally posted by Octowned
I mean in the last two seasons playing with 85 strength and 6 in pancake, my OT got 0 pancakes unless playing a gutted team. Basically in my whole career, no pancakes. I've seen no evidence of stronger / higher pancake really doing much better, either. DEs today have like 55 strength, tops, and if 85 + high SA can't knock them down, nothing will. Abandon ship!

my center has 101 str and 8 pancakes. he gets maybe 1 or 2 aginast equal competition. He got 4 last game. But yeah against bad teams he gets about 50-70.

Agility gets you pancakes

Originally posted by Octowned
I mean in the last two seasons playing with 85 strength and 6 in pancake, my OT got 0 pancakes unless playing a gutted team. Basically in my whole career, no pancakes. I've seen no evidence of stronger / higher pancake really doing much better, either. DEs today have like 55 strength, tops, and if 85 + high SA can't knock them down, nothing will. Abandon ship!

Are you playing equal or higher competition? This season I'm usually outleveled by 3-8 levels and I only have 1 pancake. Last season I was outleveling my competitiion most of the time and I had 167. I'm a OT with 84 STR and pancake SA is at 3.

If you had a guy with 80 Str and 50 agility and a guy who had 50 strength and 80 agility, the one with 80 agility would have loads more Pancakes.

Originally posted by canes30
Agility gets you pancakes

My experience is STR and the pancake SA to a lesser extint are the main things that effect pancakes. If your facing equal competition and can get 30-40 pancakes a season....that's alot really. Almost all players, once they get to lvl 30 and beyond, and are playing equal competition, are not going to get 75+ pancakes. But 1 pancake in a game can be big. I've had pancakes where I'm at ROT and we are running a sweep to the right. I pancake the DE and this allows the TE to head upfield and make a lead block. Some of these runs went for TDs. And everytime this happened we had at least a 15 yard run, because we had a TE & FB out ahead of the HB.

PM me if you want to talk specific numbers... but both of my O-Linemen are high strength for their creation date, and they haven't been shutout pancake wise this year. They're on pace for about 60 pancakes each and they both play in a team with super depth, so one averages 33 plays per game and the other is averaging about 25.