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Title says it all. The build is pretty decent overall, but he can get worked over by these types of DTs. All atts are w/ equip. I haven't invested heavily in SAs yet so maybe that's the answer, or even more agility. Maybe even a 2nd set of agility equip just for these types of DTs. I'm not sure at this point.

Strength:
87.19
Blocking:
69.19
Speed:
44.03
Tackling:
17.56
Agility:
70.02
Throwing:
8
Jumping:
9
Catching:
9
Stamina:
37.45
Carrying:
10
Vision:
51.72
Kicking:
10
Confidence:
34.19
Punting:
9

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Originally posted by ksmilkman
Maybe even a 2nd set of agility equip just for these types of DTs.


That's what I'm doing. I have Agi 64 natural but can take it up to 76 if I want.

Blocking could be a little higher. Pass Block SA to 4 might help. Also set your focus to pass block if you already haven't.

Invest all your veteran points in Blk/Str/Agi.

Build looks good though, all LGs are being abused at the moment, just knuckle down for the long haul.

If you have equip in strength, I'd move some to blocking. I have a build with 70+ str/blk, 50+ spd/agi and do ok against high agility DTs. (lvl 35 G) (will be boosting agility this season myself)

I think blk/spd/agil are where you need to go against these DTs. But don't ignore str. This reverse pancake or shed block stuff is becoming more prevalent.

And my personal opinion is that confidence needs to be soft capped. Not everybody agrees. Most say confidence just needs to be trained and that it's better to use sp's to help you not get beat on plays. I see it differently. Everybody's gonna get beat eventually. Why not be able to respond to it better with higher confidence? It's kinda like low stamina builds...great in the first half, but doo-doo in the 4th quarter. To me it's a waste of sp's to not keep up confidence and stamina...unless you're a K or P.

you're not going to ever handle us. Bwa hahahahah

Regarding numbers, 95 Str/Blk and 60 Agi (with 9 Pass Block SA) doesn't help against the hyper-agile DTs (although it is fine against most others), so it really is time to get that agility up I feel.

I agree about at least soft-capping confidence also.

Here is an example of a well-built DT that needs stopping.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=309823&mode=pbp

The DT had 14 sacks in this game. I imagine he has Agi 100+, Shed Block 8+ and a ton of speed if you watch the replays. I don't know the LGs build but from the scouting bar I'd hazard it is very very heavy in Str/Blk with Agility no more than 60.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=309823&pbp_id=1862553
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=309823&pbp_id=1863468
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=309823&pbp_id=1864323
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=309823&pbp_id=1864593
etc...

Blocking is not high enough. These DTs are great at disengaging from blocks because a lot of Gs have much higher strength than they do blocking.

Blocking = better chance to hold your block, which to me helps to counter DTs that try to shed the block with SAs and agility.

I'd say rework your equipment into blocking and from there adjust agility and the SAs as you need. Part of it is Bort too though.

Originally posted by quantofsol2008
Blocking is not high enough. These DTs are great at disengaging from blocks because a lot of Gs have much higher strength than they do blocking.

Blocking = better chance to hold your block, which to me helps to counter DTs that try to shed the block with SAs and agility.

I'd say rework your equipment into blocking and from there adjust agility and the SAs as you need. Part of it is Bort too though.

I got burnt in a scrimmage with 95 Blocking. So what exactly is high enough?

Do you guys think Shock Block would be viable at this point? I mean, how much strength could these super high agility DT's have?

Originally posted by slyraje
Do you guys think Shock Block would be viable at this point? I mean, how much strength could these super high agility DT's have?

71 str.60 speed 93 agility here. and my guy is level 31. At level 40 I could see 75 str 70 speed 100+agility easy, with sp's plus level gains.

Originally posted by mandyross
Originally posted by quantofsol2008

Blocking is not high enough. These DTs are great at disengaging from blocks because a lot of Gs have much higher strength than they do blocking.

Blocking = better chance to hold your block, which to me helps to counter DTs that try to shed the block with SAs and agility.

I'd say rework your equipment into blocking and from there adjust agility and the SAs as you need. Part of it is Bort too though.

I got burnt in a scrimmage with 95 Blocking. So what exactly is high enough?

Depends on what agility is at, stamina, play focus, SAs, etc. What scrimmage are you talking about though? I saw you let up 1 sack to a guy in one of your scrimmages, but that guy had 5 sacks in his first game. I'd say you did a decent job against him.

I've seen OTs with tons of blocking fare pretty well against agile DEs, so I would think the same thing could work here. If not, I'd say it's Bort. You're not going to completely shut them out like most guys last season, but I think Gs can do pretty well with a similar formula to OTs.

Originally posted by quantofsol2008
Originally posted by mandyross

Originally posted by quantofsol2008


Blocking is not high enough. These DTs are great at disengaging from blocks because a lot of Gs have much higher strength than they do blocking.

Blocking = better chance to hold your block, which to me helps to counter DTs that try to shed the block with SAs and agility.

I'd say rework your equipment into blocking and from there adjust agility and the SAs as you need. Part of it is Bort too though.

I got burnt in a scrimmage with 95 Blocking. So what exactly is high enough?

Depends on what agility is at, stamina, play focus, SAs, etc. What scrimmage are you talking about though? I saw you let up 1 sack to a guy in one of your scrimmages, but that guy had 5 sacks in his first game. I'd say you did a decent job against him.

I've seen OTs with tons of blocking fare pretty well against agile DEs, so I would think the same thing could work here. If not, I'd say it's Bort. You're not going to completely shut them out like most guys last season, but I think Gs can do pretty well with a similar formula to OTs.

Yeah it was a 3 Hurry, 2 Sack game against Havoc's Vernon Coles. (one of the sacks got counted as a TFL, but it was clearly a sack)

I'm more relaxed about the fact I got beat a few times as he is tearing it up against other Gs though. Also I experimented with Run Block focus. Not doing that again!

People who have been following this thread might be interested by a post made by Bort in here.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1792765&page=3

Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by ugk

Originally posted by Bort


I think the max swim vector length is maybe just too big. When shedding the block, the DT is getting a huge boost to the side, instead of a small one. A lot of DT's invested in agility+ type bonuses to try and do this very thing, which was seen in smaller amounts last season.

You gonna tweak it? :S

I test it with a couple of these guys. I really don't want to shut them down though - DT's are finally coming into their own.

Level 32.......D.T. 71.67 str/ 60.21 speed/ 97.67 agility. Try to build to beat that.

I think speed helps blocking a lot more now with the bort tweaks The Lineman drops back really fast now with more speed and gets in position better.

You could probably build a linemen with 60 blocking str speed and agility and pretty much control anyone at the line.