Warrior General Games

Okay guys, I have an entire OL that more than any of my players I'm really trying to be efficient with their SP distribution and vigilant that I don't screw up their builds. They weren't really slow-built, but I did stat-max their strength and blocking until the 2nd soft cap and IMO I've wasted very very few SP their entire builds. All five guys are now at the 4:1 or 5:1 soft caps for strength and blocking and I'm looking to turn them into the nastiest OL unit in all of GLB before they retire. They obviously had a run-blocking lean early on, but I'm trying to balance them out more now they're at higher levels.

I've got 30 SP to spend on each Lion, and I've just recently started to differentiate between them in their builds. For the most part I've avoided putting SP into confidence and vision, preferring to train those attributes. I've also tried not to spend more than a few SP in stamina as they've been in capped leagues until this season. I think it's time to spend some SP on stamina for a few of the Lions to get them all to around 40.

So I'm looking for advice on where to spend SP for each guy. I really want to continue to make sure they all have great builds.

Green Lion - LOT
http://www.salmonking.net/GreenLion.jpg
My thought - 20SP into agility, 5 SP into Speed, 5 SP into Stamina. Focus on Speed to the 1st soft cap with future SP.

Yellow Lion - LOG
http://www.salmonking.net/YellowLion.jpg
My thought - 20SP into agility, 5 SP into Speed, 5 SP into Stamina. Focus on Speed to the 1st soft cap with future SP.

Black Lion - OC
http://www.salmonking.net/BlackLion.jpg
My thoughts - Agility to 48 naturally (7SP), 5 SP into Stamina, then 18 SP into SA's...? Which ones? This guy is the one I'm having the most trouble with. I'd rather train speed than put SP into it.

Red Lion - ROG
http://www.salmonking.net/RedLion.jpg
My thoughts - Same as Yellow Lion

Blue Lion - ROT
http://www.salmonking.net/BlueLion.jpg
My thoughts - 16 SP into speed (1st soft cap), +7 Agility

All of them need more agility than you're giving them credit for, instead of putting in a measly 5 in minors right now

first of all ... nice idea and nice builds
good job finding Protector in the shop !

I think you are on the right lines with your thinking, but agree with Oct above that AGILITY is the key here.

so, your C, second cap agility not just first cap etc .....

i think your target should be to eventually have agility to third cap across the board - most DLs are stacked/ing agility now ....

right now Id aim to have agility to second cap on all of these guys before you do anything else.

So 60 agility before more stamina? That's one thing I thought about.

But what's better, 50/55 spd/agl or 40/60? I've always thought it was 50/55.

Have either of you built an OL with 60+ agility and less than 40 speed? Are you happy with him?

Originally posted by dpell
So 60 agility before more stamina? That's one thing I thought about.

But what's better, 50/55 spd/agl or 40/60? I've always thought it was 50/55.

Have either of you built an OL with 60+ agility and less than 40 speed? Are you happy with him?

My G is still in progress, and he's currently got 15 spd and 60 agi with 4 in first step. (I'm mostly goofing around with his eq while I finish rounding him out). I just pumped his agi up to 60 so I don't really know if it will actually make a difference. I watched him play a few games at 50 agi, and he looked pretty good. He obviously needs more speed, but that's what I'll be training all season, so it will be a while before his speed is anything reasonable.

Anyway, I did it this way because he's been doing well against his competition for a while, and I knew that I would eventually want his agi up to 60, and I had the left over SP. So instead of holding on to the sp or spending in SAs before I wanted to, I just went ahead and spent to get agi up to a level about where I wanted it. I guess I'm still debating going up to 68, but I'm going to wait until I get my speed up so I can put off that decision until later.

I'd rather have 40/60 than 50/55.
My OT has 42 spd / 61 agi.
Last season, he was working with about 38 spd / 56 agi and did fine.
I have never seen a NEED for more speed for my ROT. If I give up a sack, its usually a long fought battle. Agility will keep you in front of the DE the entire battle, not just on the snap.
I've wanted more speed when I need to go downfield and can't quite make it. Sometimes I feel my vision isn't sufficient to spot the next block, anyway

Hey, you were the line for the Baby Seals last year. I play for the Dark Knights. Good to see you again.

I think you're along the right lines generally. I agree with the AGL comments, at the same time you will have more points in the future to spend too. I would definately not spend any SP on STM. I think there's two ways to go here, SAs or AGL/SPD. So, I'll give you two scenarios for each player. If it were me I would do this (just my opinion):

LOT - 26 pts on the PBSA tree, making it 1-1-2-3-9. When you get to lvl 40 and upgrade your ADV EQ then the Protector will be at 10. Put the other 4 pts in AGL. Or, 20 pts to AGL and 10 to SPD. Train VIS/CON.

LOG - 19 pts on PBSA tree, making it 1-2-3-9-0. 11 pts on SPD. Or, 16 pts SPD and 14 pts AGL. Train VIS/CON.

C - 14 pts on the RBSA tree, making it 3-2-3-4-9. 7 pts to AGL. The other 9 to VIS, PBSA tree or save. Or, 23 pts to the PBSA tree, making it 1-1-3-5-9, 7 pts to AGL. Or, 7 pts to AGL, 15 pts to VIS, and 7 pts to PBSA or RBSA tree. Train SPD/STM until SPD is near 30, then train VIS/CON.

ROG - 14 pts to the RBSA, making it 2-2-3-4-9. 16 pts to SPD. Or 14 pts to RBSA, making it 2-2-3-4-9. 12 pts to PBSA tree making it 2-2-2-2-2 or 2-2-2-4-0. 4 pts to SPD. Train VIS/CON.

ROT - 22 pts to the RBSA tree, making it 2-2-3-4-9. 8 pts to AGL. Or, 20 pts to AGL, 10 pts to SPD. Train VIS/CON.

Either way, in general, I would focus the left side on pass blocking SAs, and the right side on run blocking SAs; the C on both trees. And like where you have +4 in an SA (it'll be +5 at lvl 40), you only have to get the other 5 with SP to get it to 10. So instead of spending 38 SP to get it to 10 you only spend 14 SP, saving you 24 SP. I would take full advantage of that. Your STR and BLK look good, I think in the end your going to want the AGL/SPD distribution to be something like this:

AGL SPD

LOT 70 55
LOG 60 60
C 55 50
ROG 60 55
ROT 65 55

Other than these things, last I would get VIS/CON as close to 50 as you can. At some point you run out of SP so.....

Originally posted by mwindle
Hey, you were the line for the Baby Seals last year. I play for the Dark Knights. Good to see you again.



THATS why he looked familiar.
Can't believe I didn't realize it.