My level 35 center is at 8 with a cut block of 7. Wondering if anyone is higher?
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I have 13. I got 4 different AE each with pancake SA, I upgraded one of the to 2. My player doesn't get many pancakes, though. I think its because his strength is only 20 and blocking only 30. But its cool having an SA really high even though it doesn't help my player and my team.
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blocking and strength for centers is overrated anyway. youre good.
Last edited Dec 21, 2008 15:26:05
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Originally posted by mandyross
What a waste of SP
NO NO NO NO NO NO. This type of malspeak has to be stopped. This is a viable and IMPORTANT skill for an OL to have and im tired of seeing people say that its a waste of points.
What a waste of SP
NO NO NO NO NO NO. This type of malspeak has to be stopped. This is a viable and IMPORTANT skill for an OL to have and im tired of seeing people say that its a waste of points.
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pancake is a viable SA. only a waste if you spend too early. SAs are best left alone until after lvl 29, when leveling gains are reduced to 56.25 % of max.
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Pancakes seem to occur mostly when you completely out-class your defender on that play (and can also occur more often kick/punt/interception/fumble returns due to the speeds, angles, and builds involved). When matched up against D-linemen of a comparable level and build, they are much less frequent. Less Pancakes would indicate the SA wasn't as useful as it normally is. So the Pancake SA is really good for padding your stats against players you could already block easily and maybe somewhat useful against players at or slightly below your level of ability that you can still pancake from time to time, but it works much less against the best D-linemen that you are unlikely to pancake no matter what level you have in the SA.
If run blocking was my focus I'd rather spend my skill points on an SA that is going to give the same return on investment all the time (i.e. Run Block or Get Low) or one that might even be more valuable when I am outmatched (i.e. Quick Cut).
If run blocking was my focus I'd rather spend my skill points on an SA that is going to give the same return on investment all the time (i.e. Run Block or Get Low) or one that might even be more valuable when I am outmatched (i.e. Quick Cut).
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1. Pancakes are unreliable so they're impossible to plan for in an offensive system, therefor they may as well not even be occuring
2. Holding your block forever is better
3. Retaining energy/morale is WAY better
^ invest in LG, raise blocking to 100 instead of strength.
2. Holding your block forever is better
3. Retaining energy/morale is WAY better
^ invest in LG, raise blocking to 100 instead of strength.
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
1. Pancakes are unreliable so they're impossible to plan for in an offensive system, therefor they may as well not even be occuring
2. Holding your block forever is better
3. Retaining energy/morale is WAY better
^ invest in LG, raise blocking to 100 instead of strength.
We'll see. Bort will probably fix the pancake s.a. to flatten out equal competition better. then guys like us will have an advantage.
1. Pancakes are unreliable so they're impossible to plan for in an offensive system, therefor they may as well not even be occuring
2. Holding your block forever is better
3. Retaining energy/morale is WAY better
^ invest in LG, raise blocking to 100 instead of strength.
We'll see. Bort will probably fix the pancake s.a. to flatten out equal competition better. then guys like us will have an advantage.
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Originally posted by xeef
Originally posted by mandyross
What a waste of SP
NO NO NO NO NO NO. This type of malspeak has to be stopped. This is a viable and IMPORTANT skill for an OL to have and im tired of seeing people say that its a waste of points.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
waht you posted is truly malspeak
high value in Pancake SA means you are a pancake whore. those points are better spent on skills that actually help you BLOCK
because thats what Olinemans are supposed to do, block not try to get high pancake totals but let their Qb get raped
Originally posted by mandyross
What a waste of SP
NO NO NO NO NO NO. This type of malspeak has to be stopped. This is a viable and IMPORTANT skill for an OL to have and im tired of seeing people say that its a waste of points.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
waht you posted is truly malspeak
high value in Pancake SA means you are a pancake whore. those points are better spent on skills that actually help you BLOCK
because thats what Olinemans are supposed to do, block not try to get high pancake totals but let their Qb get raped
iMan
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
1. Pancakes are unreliable so they're impossible to plan for in an offensive system, therefor they may as well not even be occuring
2. Holding your block forever is better
3. Retaining energy/morale is WAY better
^ invest in LG, raise blocking to 100 instead of strength.
We'll see. Bort will probably fix the pancake s.a. to flatten out equal competition better. then guys like us will have an advantage.
no he didnt
he made it so Dlinemans can reverse pancake Olinemans
Guys like you are the reason why DT get 10 sacks a game and DE gets 30 sacks a game
Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
1. Pancakes are unreliable so they're impossible to plan for in an offensive system, therefor they may as well not even be occuring
2. Holding your block forever is better
3. Retaining energy/morale is WAY better
^ invest in LG, raise blocking to 100 instead of strength.
We'll see. Bort will probably fix the pancake s.a. to flatten out equal competition better. then guys like us will have an advantage.
no he didnt
he made it so Dlinemans can reverse pancake Olinemans
Guys like you are the reason why DT get 10 sacks a game and DE gets 30 sacks a game
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Originally posted by FatLoad
I have 13. I got 4 different AE each with pancake SA, I upgraded one of the to 2. My player doesn't get many pancakes, though. I think its because his strength is only 20 and blocking only 30. But its cool having an SA really high even though it doesn't help my player and my team.
OMG
I try not to be mean but Bort should revoke your ability to make an Offensive Lineman
what kind of Olineman has 13 in pancake before he even has softcapped str, blocking, and agility
Please do the GLB world a favor and retire your Olinemans
I have 13. I got 4 different AE each with pancake SA, I upgraded one of the to 2. My player doesn't get many pancakes, though. I think its because his strength is only 20 and blocking only 30. But its cool having an SA really high even though it doesn't help my player and my team.
OMG
I try not to be mean but Bort should revoke your ability to make an Offensive Lineman
what kind of Olineman has 13 in pancake before he even has softcapped str, blocking, and agility
Please do the GLB world a favor and retire your Olinemans
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