well, that was gay..
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we humped them 2 days ago.
was already gameplanning for whatsamatta, and suddenly we've lost. we didnt even boost half the team yet..
dunno how we can put 72 on lions, lose to bdm on a coin-flip and beat whatsamatta - and then implode like that.
this league/forum will suck without the bdm, elk and/or bucks - eventually we'll have to win it by default..
was already gameplanning for whatsamatta, and suddenly we've lost. we didnt even boost half the team yet..
dunno how we can put 72 on lions, lose to bdm on a coin-flip and beat whatsamatta - and then implode like that.
this league/forum will suck without the bdm, elk and/or bucks - eventually we'll have to win it by default..
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Originally posted by Kyriakin
we humped them 2 days ago.
was already gameplanning for whatsamatta, and suddenly we've lost. we didnt even boost half the team yet..
dunno how we can put 72 on lions, lose to bdm on a coin-flip and beat whatsamatta - and then implode like that.
this league/forum will suck without the bdm, elk and/or bucks - eventually we'll have to win it by default..
Hopefully the WR Screen stuff will be taken care of next season. Or at least a way to game plan against it. Though there are quite a few different teams in this conference that use it more than they actually should. Some who also do not need to employ it and do. I suppose that is the breaks..
we humped them 2 days ago.
was already gameplanning for whatsamatta, and suddenly we've lost. we didnt even boost half the team yet..
dunno how we can put 72 on lions, lose to bdm on a coin-flip and beat whatsamatta - and then implode like that.
this league/forum will suck without the bdm, elk and/or bucks - eventually we'll have to win it by default..
Hopefully the WR Screen stuff will be taken care of next season. Or at least a way to game plan against it. Though there are quite a few different teams in this conference that use it more than they actually should. Some who also do not need to employ it and do. I suppose that is the breaks..
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Originally posted by Kyriakin
this league/forum will suck without the bdm, elk and/or bucks - eventually we'll have to win it by default..
Just be careful for the Prague Prowlers... they might actually field a decent team next season.
this league/forum will suck without the bdm, elk and/or bucks - eventually we'll have to win it by default..
Just be careful for the Prague Prowlers... they might actually field a decent team next season.
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Originally posted by mattrious
Hopefully the WR Screen stuff will be taken care of next season. Or at least a way to game plan against it. Though there are quite a few different teams in this conference that use it more than they actually should. Some who also do not need to employ it and do. I suppose that is the breaks..
I'm with you on that score.
GG today! We really should have just started running a lot after going up 2 TDs but we didn't and there you go. Good luck vs. BDM!! Hoping you can beat them!
Hopefully the WR Screen stuff will be taken care of next season. Or at least a way to game plan against it. Though there are quite a few different teams in this conference that use it more than they actually should. Some who also do not need to employ it and do. I suppose that is the breaks..
I'm with you on that score.
GG today! We really should have just started running a lot after going up 2 TDs but we didn't and there you go. Good luck vs. BDM!! Hoping you can beat them!
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Come on guys...I know you are upset about the loss and I would be too...everyone hates losing! But you know what, the WR screen is NOT a bug and can be defended for a loss, as long as you put a play in there to do it. Look at the Strong I off tackle, for a while it was unstoppable, now it's second nature to put a defense in to stop it. Although I have nothing to do with our play calling, I have no problems with our team calling that play...especially since had you put the defense in for it, it would have been our detriment!!
Anyway, good luck to you guys too, you have a good team and hope you can respect a team that game planned around your awesome defense...you already proved we had to get creative to get a win..and when we do, you get upset. This game is all about out-thinking the opponent when it gets to this level and I think our OC did this time. Anyway, I hope you take something positive from the game and not be quite as bitter. Like I said, it's just a play, is easily stoppable and in my opinion, not an exploit other than not everyone has done their research to prepare for it.
Anyway, good luck to you guys too, you have a good team and hope you can respect a team that game planned around your awesome defense...you already proved we had to get creative to get a win..and when we do, you get upset. This game is all about out-thinking the opponent when it gets to this level and I think our OC did this time. Anyway, I hope you take something positive from the game and not be quite as bitter. Like I said, it's just a play, is easily stoppable and in my opinion, not an exploit other than not everyone has done their research to prepare for it.
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Originally posted by mwoods07
Come on guys...I know you are upset about the loss and I would be too...everyone hates losing! But you know what, the WR screen is NOT a bug and can be defended for a loss, as long as you put a play in there to do it. Look at the Strong I off tackle, for a while it was unstoppable, now it's second nature to put a defense in to stop it. Although I have nothing to do with our play calling, I have no problems with our team calling that play...especially since had you put the defense in for it, it would have been our detriment!!
Anyway, good luck to you guys too, you have a good team and hope you can respect a team that game planned around your awesome defense...you already proved we had to get creative to get a win..and when we do, you get upset. This game is all about out-thinking the opponent when it gets to this level and I think our OC did this time. Anyway, I hope you take something positive from the game and not be quite as bitter. Like I said, it's just a play, is easily stoppable and in my opinion, not an exploit other than not everyone has done their research to prepare for it.
okay.
if you defend the WR screen it requires you putting 3 men on that side of the field over there far left.
yes, that works, and it does create a loss situation on that play.
problem is to do it you have to run a 4-1, or a 3-2... a 3-1 is most effective.
NOW, what do all of those pformations have in common?
anyone?
anyone at all?
HB smash will utterly destroy every one of those for about 8-12 yards.
so, if an offense runs just those 2 plays they are impossible to stop.
yes, impossible.
any team running these two plays should have any wins revoked from their record and be looked down upon by their entire league for using an exploit in borts programming to their advantage.
In real football there is a way to counter this, in dotball, even close coverage does not work, since your CB does not cut down in front and Intercept it.
and as you saw in that game the cover 2 does not kill this play, only wound it.
Come on guys...I know you are upset about the loss and I would be too...everyone hates losing! But you know what, the WR screen is NOT a bug and can be defended for a loss, as long as you put a play in there to do it. Look at the Strong I off tackle, for a while it was unstoppable, now it's second nature to put a defense in to stop it. Although I have nothing to do with our play calling, I have no problems with our team calling that play...especially since had you put the defense in for it, it would have been our detriment!!
Anyway, good luck to you guys too, you have a good team and hope you can respect a team that game planned around your awesome defense...you already proved we had to get creative to get a win..and when we do, you get upset. This game is all about out-thinking the opponent when it gets to this level and I think our OC did this time. Anyway, I hope you take something positive from the game and not be quite as bitter. Like I said, it's just a play, is easily stoppable and in my opinion, not an exploit other than not everyone has done their research to prepare for it.
okay.
if you defend the WR screen it requires you putting 3 men on that side of the field over there far left.
yes, that works, and it does create a loss situation on that play.
problem is to do it you have to run a 4-1, or a 3-2... a 3-1 is most effective.
NOW, what do all of those pformations have in common?
anyone?
anyone at all?
HB smash will utterly destroy every one of those for about 8-12 yards.
so, if an offense runs just those 2 plays they are impossible to stop.
yes, impossible.
any team running these two plays should have any wins revoked from their record and be looked down upon by their entire league for using an exploit in borts programming to their advantage.
In real football there is a way to counter this, in dotball, even close coverage does not work, since your CB does not cut down in front and Intercept it.
and as you saw in that game the cover 2 does not kill this play, only wound it.
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oh btw, if being creative means using the play that 98% of teams that are desperate to win enough to stoop to that level use, then congratulations on being creative.
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I suppose making long 3rd down conversions on traditional pass plays is cheap too?? Maybe Bort can get rid of passing on third down next season.
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Originally posted by Davidjon88
Cypriot Freedom 49 - Maribor Triforce 42
And these were your regular season results when you didn't gameplan to a sim engine exploit:
Maribor Triforce 42 - Cypriot Freedom 17
Belarus Death Machine 47 - Cypriot Freedom 24
Jefferson City Bucks 41 - Cypriot Freedom 6
WhatsaMatta U Fighting Elk 65 - Cypriot Freedom 17
I'm actually not opposed to the play calling, since that was your only shot to win... gotta get dirty in the trenches. I just wouldn't be surprised when a better team takes a similar approach to wipe the field with you.
Cypriot Freedom 49 - Maribor Triforce 42
And these were your regular season results when you didn't gameplan to a sim engine exploit:
Maribor Triforce 42 - Cypriot Freedom 17
Belarus Death Machine 47 - Cypriot Freedom 24
Jefferson City Bucks 41 - Cypriot Freedom 6
WhatsaMatta U Fighting Elk 65 - Cypriot Freedom 17
I'm actually not opposed to the play calling, since that was your only shot to win... gotta get dirty in the trenches. I just wouldn't be surprised when a better team takes a similar approach to wipe the field with you.
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Can't compare week 2 and 3 to team now. Its also not surprising that we lost to the three best teams. Maribor shouldnt have been gameplanning a round ahead. Having tailbacks that rush 3700 yards doesn't speak to "realism" either
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Originally posted by Davidjon88
Having tailbacks that rush 3700 yards doesn't speak to "realism" either
Amen to that. I suppose it's not meant to be an NFL simulator... perhaps more of Madden sim without the ability to control individual dots? 13 - 16 defensive battles would lose agent interest quickly. Though I'm not sure how 96 - 6 blowouts are much better.
Having tailbacks that rush 3700 yards doesn't speak to "realism" either
Amen to that. I suppose it's not meant to be an NFL simulator... perhaps more of Madden sim without the ability to control individual dots? 13 - 16 defensive battles would lose agent interest quickly. Though I'm not sure how 96 - 6 blowouts are much better.
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