I think even with the two losses Dan Marino has it locked down but we could see a cat fight between Denver LastDinosaur and Adam Avalanche over the trophy but who am I to speculate.
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Originally posted by cowtesticles2001
who and who??
you must be drunk....
Way to go out on a limb there. Is middy ever sober?
who and who??
you must be drunk....
Way to go out on a limb there. Is middy ever sober?
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Originally posted by HaplosDog
Originally posted by cowtesticles2001
who and who??
you must be drunk....
Way to go out on a limb there. Is middy ever sober?
LOL, you know me all to well, H-Dog. I had maybe one too many Crown Royals and felt a little Goal Line Blitzy while watching the Heisman show last night.
I think the Bradford from OU deserved it he put up some crazy numbers in a tough conference plus leading OU over Texas to the National Championship game. Oops, wait a minute he didn’t lead OU over Texas did he? Damn Is OU the Media's new USC, well we will see if the SEC makes short work of another pre-crowned paper champion.
Originally posted by cowtesticles2001
who and who??
you must be drunk....
Way to go out on a limb there. Is middy ever sober?
LOL, you know me all to well, H-Dog. I had maybe one too many Crown Royals and felt a little Goal Line Blitzy while watching the Heisman show last night.
I think the Bradford from OU deserved it he put up some crazy numbers in a tough conference plus leading OU over Texas to the National Championship game. Oops, wait a minute he didn’t lead OU over Texas did he? Damn Is OU the Media's new USC, well we will see if the SEC makes short work of another pre-crowned paper champion.
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Originally posted by midlineveer
Originally posted by HaplosDog
Originally posted by cowtesticles2001
who and who??
you must be drunk....
Way to go out on a limb there. Is middy ever sober?
LOL, you know me all to well, H-Dog. I had maybe one too many Crown Royals and felt a little Goal Line Blitzy while watching the Heisman show last night.
I think the Bradford from OU deserved it he put up some crazy numbers in a tough conference plus leading OU over Texas to the National Championship game. Oops, wait a minute he didn’t lead OU over Texas did he? Damn Is OU the Media's new USC, well we will see if the SEC makes short work of another pre-crowned paper champion.
People have short memories, OU is garbage. USC shows up in big games, OU is worse then OSU in big games.
Boise State? Drilled them.
They lost the Big XII conference championship to K-State, yet because the media loves them, they got to play USC in the title game, DRILLED.
Once again OU loses a big game, to Texas this time, but skates into the title game, Florida is going to tear them a new one imo.
Originally posted by HaplosDog
Originally posted by cowtesticles2001
who and who??
you must be drunk....
Way to go out on a limb there. Is middy ever sober?
LOL, you know me all to well, H-Dog. I had maybe one too many Crown Royals and felt a little Goal Line Blitzy while watching the Heisman show last night.
I think the Bradford from OU deserved it he put up some crazy numbers in a tough conference plus leading OU over Texas to the National Championship game. Oops, wait a minute he didn’t lead OU over Texas did he? Damn Is OU the Media's new USC, well we will see if the SEC makes short work of another pre-crowned paper champion.
People have short memories, OU is garbage. USC shows up in big games, OU is worse then OSU in big games.
Boise State? Drilled them.
They lost the Big XII conference championship to K-State, yet because the media loves them, they got to play USC in the title game, DRILLED.
Once again OU loses a big game, to Texas this time, but skates into the title game, Florida is going to tear them a new one imo.
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Originally posted by sxewesley
People have short memories, OU is garbage. USC shows up in big games, OU is worse then OSU in big games.
Boise State? Drilled them.
They lost the Big XII conference championship to K-State, yet because the media loves them, they got to play USC in the title game, DRILLED.
Once again OU loses a big game, to Texas this time, but skates into the title game, Florida is going to tear them a new one imo.
Apparently your memory is short too...
Oklahoma lost to K-State in the Big 12 Championship and then lost to LSU in the Championship game in 2003. They actually screwed USC out of playing LSU. This was the year LSU and USC split the championship.
In 2004 the media screwed and undefeated Auburn team to let weak Oklahoma get their asses handed to them by USC (I dont care what any USC fan says there is an asterisks by their Championship... 2 best teams did not play in that game... any Oklahoma fan is delusional if they still contend that Oklahoma deserved to be there)
That said, I agree with you. Oklahoma has been media darlings (as much so as USC) for quite some time now. The are a good team but are perennially overrated because of their school's name/history/conference. Again, this year they do not belong in the championship game. It was not earned but given to them simply because they are Oklahoma. :thumbdown:
People have short memories, OU is garbage. USC shows up in big games, OU is worse then OSU in big games.
Boise State? Drilled them.
They lost the Big XII conference championship to K-State, yet because the media loves them, they got to play USC in the title game, DRILLED.
Once again OU loses a big game, to Texas this time, but skates into the title game, Florida is going to tear them a new one imo.
Apparently your memory is short too...
Oklahoma lost to K-State in the Big 12 Championship and then lost to LSU in the Championship game in 2003. They actually screwed USC out of playing LSU. This was the year LSU and USC split the championship.
In 2004 the media screwed and undefeated Auburn team to let weak Oklahoma get their asses handed to them by USC (I dont care what any USC fan says there is an asterisks by their Championship... 2 best teams did not play in that game... any Oklahoma fan is delusional if they still contend that Oklahoma deserved to be there)
That said, I agree with you. Oklahoma has been media darlings (as much so as USC) for quite some time now. The are a good team but are perennially overrated because of their school's name/history/conference. Again, this year they do not belong in the championship game. It was not earned but given to them simply because they are Oklahoma. :thumbdown:
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That's crap. You have no idea what your posting and it's painfully obvious. Oklahoma earned the right to be in the national champ game by virtue of their strength of schedule and winning the Big 12 conference.
Oklahoma went 5-1 versus ranked teams in the final AP poll. Texas Tech # 8, TCU # 11, Cincinati # 12, Ok State # 13 and Missouri # 25. They lost to Texas # 3. Please cite any team in Div 1 college football in 2008 with 5 wins over teams ranked in the final AP poll? You can't. So much for OU playing a weak schedule or that it chokes in big games. So a big game is only the one they lost? Not the other 5 they won?
Second, OU is 6-1 in Big 12 championship games and 3-0 in the last three 2006. 2007 and 2008. Big 12 Championship games aren't counted as big anymore? Why? Because OU wins them? Let's remove all conference champ games considered as big games.
Finally, the BCS bowl game losses are cited as reasons why Oklahoma chokes. The Sooners are 2-4 and if that's your only criteria, then have at it. However, if that's you're only criteria, then there's only 5 big games a year and none other count which is idiotic.
We'll see how OU does versus Florida. It's going to be a great game between the two best teams in college football and may the best team win.
Oklahoma went 5-1 versus ranked teams in the final AP poll. Texas Tech # 8, TCU # 11, Cincinati # 12, Ok State # 13 and Missouri # 25. They lost to Texas # 3. Please cite any team in Div 1 college football in 2008 with 5 wins over teams ranked in the final AP poll? You can't. So much for OU playing a weak schedule or that it chokes in big games. So a big game is only the one they lost? Not the other 5 they won?
Second, OU is 6-1 in Big 12 championship games and 3-0 in the last three 2006. 2007 and 2008. Big 12 Championship games aren't counted as big anymore? Why? Because OU wins them? Let's remove all conference champ games considered as big games.
Finally, the BCS bowl game losses are cited as reasons why Oklahoma chokes. The Sooners are 2-4 and if that's your only criteria, then have at it. However, if that's you're only criteria, then there's only 5 big games a year and none other count which is idiotic.
We'll see how OU does versus Florida. It's going to be a great game between the two best teams in college football and may the best team win.
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Originally posted by Bill Jack
That's crap. You have no idea what your posting and it's painfully obvious. Oklahoma earned the right to be in the national champ game by virtue of their strength of schedule and winning the Big 12 conference.
Oklahoma went 5-1 versus ranked teams in the final AP poll. Texas Tech # 8, TCU # 11, Cincinati # 12, Ok State # 13 and Missouri # 25. They lost to Texas # 3. Please cite any team in Div 1 college football in 2008 with 5 wins over teams ranked in the final AP poll? You can't. So much for OU playing a weak schedule or that it chokes in big games. So a big game is only the one they lost? Not the other 5 they won?
This argument just doesnt work with those who do not believe/have faith in the ranking system. You list TCU and Cinci as quality wins solely because of their ranking. Do you, honestly, feel those are quality wins? I will also throw Ok State and Missouri into that same arguement (both teams had very weak schedules, especially Missouri... only tough matchups for Ok State were the big 3 of the Big 12 and they got their asses handed to them in those games).
The fact remains they lost to Texas on a neutral site, Texas lost to TT in TT, and Oklahoma beat TT at home. Texas (I and cant stand them... hate them worse than Oklahoma) were screwed with the shitty tiebreaker. I do not argue that Oklahoma has a great team, but just because they win a lousy tiebreaker should have no bearing on how the voters judge the teams.
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Second, OU is 6-1 in Big 12 championship games and 3-0 in the last three 2006. 2007 and 2008. Big 12 Championship games aren't counted as big anymore? Why? Because OU wins them? Let's remove all conference champ games considered as big games.
Are you really proud of winning the Big 12 Championship game against Missouri (is there really any doubt that Texas or TT would have whooped Missouri too had they had the chance)? Is that really an accomplishment? The Big 12 North is a joke, especially this year.
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Finally, the BCS bowl game losses are cited as reasons why Oklahoma chokes. The Sooners are 2-4 and if that's your only criteria, then have at it. However, if that's you're only criteria, then there's only 5 big games a year and none other count which is idiotic.
I agree they didnt choke in those games. They were outplayed and in most cases the underdog in the games they lost. As long as you are in agreement that USC should have played LSU in 2003 and Auburn should have played USC in 2004 and the only reason Oklahoma played in those games was simply because they are Oklahoma/media darlings.
That's crap. You have no idea what your posting and it's painfully obvious. Oklahoma earned the right to be in the national champ game by virtue of their strength of schedule and winning the Big 12 conference.
Oklahoma went 5-1 versus ranked teams in the final AP poll. Texas Tech # 8, TCU # 11, Cincinati # 12, Ok State # 13 and Missouri # 25. They lost to Texas # 3. Please cite any team in Div 1 college football in 2008 with 5 wins over teams ranked in the final AP poll? You can't. So much for OU playing a weak schedule or that it chokes in big games. So a big game is only the one they lost? Not the other 5 they won?
This argument just doesnt work with those who do not believe/have faith in the ranking system. You list TCU and Cinci as quality wins solely because of their ranking. Do you, honestly, feel those are quality wins? I will also throw Ok State and Missouri into that same arguement (both teams had very weak schedules, especially Missouri... only tough matchups for Ok State were the big 3 of the Big 12 and they got their asses handed to them in those games).
The fact remains they lost to Texas on a neutral site, Texas lost to TT in TT, and Oklahoma beat TT at home. Texas (I and cant stand them... hate them worse than Oklahoma) were screwed with the shitty tiebreaker. I do not argue that Oklahoma has a great team, but just because they win a lousy tiebreaker should have no bearing on how the voters judge the teams.
Originally posted by
Second, OU is 6-1 in Big 12 championship games and 3-0 in the last three 2006. 2007 and 2008. Big 12 Championship games aren't counted as big anymore? Why? Because OU wins them? Let's remove all conference champ games considered as big games.
Are you really proud of winning the Big 12 Championship game against Missouri (is there really any doubt that Texas or TT would have whooped Missouri too had they had the chance)? Is that really an accomplishment? The Big 12 North is a joke, especially this year.
Originally posted by
Finally, the BCS bowl game losses are cited as reasons why Oklahoma chokes. The Sooners are 2-4 and if that's your only criteria, then have at it. However, if that's you're only criteria, then there's only 5 big games a year and none other count which is idiotic.
I agree they didnt choke in those games. They were outplayed and in most cases the underdog in the games they lost. As long as you are in agreement that USC should have played LSU in 2003 and Auburn should have played USC in 2004 and the only reason Oklahoma played in those games was simply because they are Oklahoma/media darlings.
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Given the player turnover rate in college football (and the fact that "clutchness" does not actually exist, of course), where is the basis for claiming that any school's teams "choke" in big games? The discussion should be entirely based on which team is better, straight up.
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Originally posted by Mornacale
Given the player turnover rate in college football (and the fact that "clutchness" does not actually exist, of course), where is the basis for claiming that any school's teams "choke" in big games? The discussion should be entirely based on which team is better, straight up.
Well that takes all the fun out of it. If you can't put down the Big 10 and Pac 10 (or as I like to call them the Soft 20) why watch college football. There is no room for intellect or rational discussions when you have a belly full of tailgate BBQ and beer. Give me a drunk chick screaming Alabama sucks any day. She has no idea why she hates them but God damn it makes her happy and I may get Lucky if I agree.
Given the player turnover rate in college football (and the fact that "clutchness" does not actually exist, of course), where is the basis for claiming that any school's teams "choke" in big games? The discussion should be entirely based on which team is better, straight up.
Well that takes all the fun out of it. If you can't put down the Big 10 and Pac 10 (or as I like to call them the Soft 20) why watch college football. There is no room for intellect or rational discussions when you have a belly full of tailgate BBQ and beer. Give me a drunk chick screaming Alabama sucks any day. She has no idea why she hates them but God damn it makes her happy and I may get Lucky if I agree.
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Originally posted by midlineveer
Give me a drunk chick screaming Alabama sucks any day. She has no idea why she hates them but God damn it makes her happy and I may get Lucky if I agree.
Well, yeah, but is getting into yoohoo's pants really worth the effort?
Give me a drunk chick screaming Alabama sucks any day. She has no idea why she hates them but God damn it makes her happy and I may get Lucky if I agree.
Well, yeah, but is getting into yoohoo's pants really worth the effort?
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