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I wanted to separate this discussion from the post game handshake thread to avoid derailing that thread.

Originally posted by StudMuffin
Originally posted by markm6770

Frustration is really building. One of my teams just lost a damn good GM yesterday because he just got sick of how unrealistic this game is and is done. We lost another GM last offseason for basically the same reasons.

Pass rush is f'd up. Pro leagues I am in have guys with 60+ sacks after TWELVE games. For those who don't know, the NFL record is 22.5 by Strahan. And you know the drill... offensive linemen will spend their offseason boosts getting agility up to combat the "sprinter" DEs and Bort will change everything once again to make those boosts meaningless.


the NFL doesnt have comp players or gutted teams or highschool teams...

so keep that kind of nonsense in the other pro leagues please......

its not hard to not get sacked....run the ball?


I guess longing for a little realism is nonsense? Ever wonder why so many people are getting frustrated/disgruntled? Ever wonder where these gutted teams are coming from?

We're 4th in the conference in rushing attempts with 42/game. Unfortunately, there are situations/downs/distances where passing is necessary.

Maybe its the type of passes you are choosing?

If you go through the settings, there are teams who aren't having the same issue with sacks as others.

Brisbane Heat: 12 sacks allowed, 372 attempts
Melbourne: 18 sacks allowed, 332 attempts
Vanuatu: 20 sacks allowed, 360 attempts
Brisbane Gods: 21 sacks allowed, 344 attempts

Then Barossa is down near the bottom of Zeta: 44 sacks allowed, 357 attempts

It could be your builds, I don't know?

It could be that you elect for long passing routes?

It could be that you only keep 5 guys (the line) in to block, either by choice (letting TE/HB/FB out on routes) or formation (5-WR, for example)?

But not every team is having the same issue with sacks. In fact, while individual sack numbers are still unrealistic at times, they are far better than last season.

Now, go to the offense side: Rushing YPC are way too high, so people have a right to complain about that side of the ball as well. This game will never replicate NFL type numbers for a number of reasons -- this season has its issues, but I don't think the pass rush is one of them, at least not against most formations...against the shotgun sets, I still think its an issue, but that is likely more to do with the lack of options from those sets.

Haha..Not for G-Town ..Our poor QB has been sacked I think like 50 times..And hurried another 80 or something like that..And that's WITH keeping both TE, and RB/FB's in..So it could be builds, could be tactics..But it's still pretty unrealistic no matter how you look at it.

Originally posted by TheInstantClassic
Haha..Not for G-Town ..Our poor QB has been sacked I think like 50 times..And hurried another 80 or something like that..And that's WITH keeping both TE, and RB/FB's in..So it could be builds, could be tactics..But it's still pretty unrealistic no matter how you look at it.

gotta be something in there that is leading some teams to have issues and others to handle the rush pretty well.

We only throw deep in long yardage situations. The vast majority of our offense has been short/medium routes with heavy emphasis on running the ball. We identified protection as an issue very early and have tried a lot of things to counter (screens for example). No luck.

It's definitely build related. We never thought we'd need close to 70 agility for our offensive tackles. Our fear is spending boatloads of cash to re-equip, and focusing boosts on agility, only to have Bort make sweeping changes for season 7.

But I guess everyone's been bitten by changes to the game... why should we expect to be any different?

We've allowed 25 sacks and until recently were throwing about 50/50 med/deep. And 2/3's of those came in three games against teams that send a lot of pressure.

BTW, our LOT has about 60 agility and has been set to balanced every game this season. Protector SA makes a big difference. A QB with good vision and more than 40 in speed/agility tends to sidestep the pass rush and get rid of the ball too.

Originally posted by markm6770
We only throw deep in long yardage situations. The vast majority of our offense has been short/medium routes with heavy emphasis on running the ball. We identified protection as an issue very early and have tried a lot of things to counter (screens for example). No luck.

It's definitely build related. We never thought we'd need close to 70 agility for our offensive tackles. Our fear is spending boatloads of cash to re-equip, and focusing boosts on agility, only to have Bort make sweeping changes for season 7.

But I guess everyone's been bitten by changes to the game... why should we expect to be any different?



We bought into the agility bandwagon, among other things (well, at least I did) while reading through the specials (namely the Protect special for LT). And, building enough players myself, I realized how certain positions were building and tried to adjust accordingly. We've still got a ways to go, but I think we've made a lot of gains this season and give our QB's a good deal of time to make the throw.

That said, even with time, we're still throwing more picks than I'd like to see

Originally posted by dpell
We've allowed 25 sacks and until recently were throwing about 50/50 med/deep. And 2/3's of those came in three games against teams that send a lot of pressure.

BTW, our LOT has about 60 agility and has been set to balanced every game this season. Protector SA makes a big difference. A QB with good vision and more than 40 in speed/agility tends to sidestep the pass rush and get rid of the ball too.

This!

lol. my qb has been sacked something like 50 times this season. that's dam near 3x his 5 season prior totals.

we keep rbs, fbs and te's in to block and just seems like nothing works. we even for a while threw nothing but short passes. you can look back and see few games with 3 or 4 yards per attempt lol. and still got sacked a lot.

i know alot has to do with pass rushing de's blowing by ot's. and both the ot and guard and te all go for the de and leave the lb wide open lol.

i know in our case i'm sure chemistry has alot to do with it. but i think something is not right. is way too easy for the blitz to get in. for some reason the o-line goes for the same guy and leaves the other guy with wide open lane to qb.

heck i have seen my qb not even finish his dropback and be sacked lol.

this league is rough with sacks. could be something in game, could be bad blocking.

or you could just credit the other teams great de builds

Originally posted by CableJelly
Originally posted by dpell

We've allowed 25 sacks and until recently were throwing about 50/50 med/deep. And 2/3's of those came in three games against teams that send a lot of pressure.

BTW, our LOT has about 60 agility and has been set to balanced every game this season. Protector SA makes a big difference. A QB with good vision and more than 40 in speed/agility tends to sidestep the pass rush and get rid of the ball too.

This!

I disagree... only because I'm getting sacked like crazy and I have much more than 40 Agility. Doesn't seem to make a difference what Agility I have I get sacked as much as my Back Up does (with less Agility). Sacks are definitely crazy right now, but what are you going to do... just gotta keep playin the game.

QB vision is part of it too...

So apparently we (The Gods) have allowed 21.

Honestly we should have allowed about 5.

We have done some stupid things in our pass blocking schemes (like TE on the left side, forcing the LT to block in and the TE to block out) and we kept someone starting longer than he should have, and we have someone who should switch his gear but hasn't.

Its all about the build, really my LT has allowed ONE sack, and I still can't figure out why he blocked the DT instead of the DE, so really he didn't get beat but was his fault.

Get better builds, keep a FB or HB in every now and then, and send you TE on patterns so hes not owned by a DE he can't block.

How many teams have a 3rd down back that actually trained a little bit of blocking skill?

Originally posted by tahl
Originally posted by CableJelly

Originally posted by dpell


We've allowed 25 sacks and until recently were throwing about 50/50 med/deep. And 2/3's of those came in three games against teams that send a lot of pressure.

BTW, our LOT has about 60 agility and has been set to balanced every game this season. Protector SA makes a big difference. A QB with good vision and more than 40 in speed/agility tends to sidestep the pass rush and get rid of the ball too.

This!

I disagree... only because I'm getting sacked like crazy and I have much more than 40 Agility. Doesn't seem to make a difference what Agility I have I get sacked as much as my Back Up does (with less Agility). Sacks are definitely crazy right now, but what are you going to do... just gotta keep playin the game.

I got pissed off when your QB kept taking off on pass plays against us.

LOL and here I am complaining about DE's getting nerfed..