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Admerylous
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I was wondering if any of your teams have been experiencing this issue as well. I've been sending in the reports of this when it occurs to the Capitals to support but so far all I've got as a response is from Thorn asking for a few more details in regards to it.

How frequently does your AI seemingingly neglect your input and just run another offensive play on absurd 4th down situations?

8:08 4th & 10 OPP 26.5 Olaf Kolzig rush up the middle (4 yd gain) (turnover on downs) [tackle: Andra Davis]
Enter this criteria directly into the AI tester...
Matching Input
Input Named: Punt

Possible Outputs
100% Punt (punt)


10:09 4th & 5.5 OPP 40 Byron Nelson pass to Denali Goldberg up the left side [deflected by Caleb Taylor] (incomplete) (turnover on downs)

7:45 4th & 2.5 OWN 9 Olaf Kolzig rush up the middle (4 yd gain) [tackle: Brian Tresidder]

1:12 4th & 2 OPP 43 Jones Freaking Drew rush to the left (0.5 yd loss) (turnover on downs) [tackle: Justin Francis]


Frankly, I hadn't ever cared too much because we seemed to convert these ridiculous 4th down attempts more often than not ... and then we had our hearts broken.


So, if any of you have similar cases -- and your offensive AI tester even tells you your AI should have punted -- please send them to me so I can continue building a bigger stockpile of evidence.
 
IHasUsername
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check your Quarter Specific settings. Maybe you have something in there that overrides the punt input.
 
Kono22
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Those are tested on the AI testers too, right? There are no other matching outputs besides Punt. I tested it as well and put the exact situation in there. The first one listed, that is.
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Admerylous
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Yeah, no over riding with no other matching outputs.

I wonder if I should copy my punt setting into each quarter to play it safe -- but the offensive AI tester still yielded 100% Punt and yet the game results in a non-punt.
 
Admerylous
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And now I have a concern as to having two matching punt inputs ... will the game get confused and now throw them BOTH out!? Ahh!
 
IHasUsername
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Originally posted by Admerylous
I wonder if I should copy my punt setting into each quarter to play it safe


do this. itll override everything else unless you have a special circumstance (ie down with <2 minutes or something).
 
Admerylous
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I'm still scratching my head... the AI Tester still yields 100% Punt output with no other matching outputs... yet it still runs an offensive play?
 
gassyazz
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Yah that is crazy. If the AI tester says punt and that is the only option when you test it, then it is a huge bug. I have not seen the issue come up with our AI yet but I will let you know if it starts to happen.
 
DrewRyan
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send me a PM, ill let you know why thats happening.

 
FlyersSuck
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Originally posted by gassyazz
Yah that is crazy. If the AI tester says punt and that is the only option when you test it, then it is a huge bug. I have not seen the issue come up with our AI yet but I will let you know if it starts to happen.


I've now seen it across 3 games with 2 different teams. Something ain't right going on.
 
DrkSandman
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Originally posted by DrewRyan
send me a PM, ill let you know why thats happening.



...maybe share with everyone, sir?
 
tuocekim
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Add Boston to the list of teams...

0:09 4th & 12 OWN 14 Barley N'Hops pass to Chunky "White" Meat up the right side (10 yd gain) (turnover on downs) [tackle: Froggy Lancaster]

I know it shows only 9 seconds left, but this was the 1st quarter. There's nothing in our AI that would have us going for this. I mean come on, 4th and 12 on our own 14 and we go for it?!?
 
Admerylous
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What happens when you enter it into your offensive AI tester?
 
brownryango
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now do you guys believe that darius hasn't been lying about glitches in the game fucking us?
 
Elissidel
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Originally posted by brownryango
now do you guys believe that darius hasn't been lying about glitches in the game fucking us?


Definitely. I have been with you guys ever since that bitch ass hurricane stole your championship.
 
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