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Aiight....

1st off the difference between a level 30-32 player to a 35-39 player (build dependent, assuming all well built) is very drastic. Without boosting, a player from level 30 to get to level 39 would take a few seasons...

So here we go....

How the Yellowknife Rented Mules became so good so fast in a league that has been around since midway through season 3.

Conn Chris owns almost as many players as I do....

After he acquired this team (recant he already owned the Mules, but they had won 2 games in 2 seasons in league play)....he moved all of his players from a Canada AAA #2 team that had records of 13-6, 15-5, 19-1, 19-7 in the first 4 seasons. The team went CPU in season 5, as to why Conn Chris didn't acquire that team (recant, he already owned the Mules)....

I have been a GM on the Assassins since Day 1. Our owner went inactive for 10 days about 6 or 7 different times over the first half season and following 2 full seasons. So not wanting the Assassins and our CORE to fold I kept in touch with support to let them know of the situation and that I wanted the team since we were GOOD and we didn't want it gutted. I acquired the team. Instead of going out and taking my 10-15 30+ level players that are playing in Africa AAA on Playoff Teams....I recruited and brought in my lower level players to try to keep the playground competitive.

After CONN CHRIS acquired in season 5.....he acquired the following. I believe there are only 3 agent/owners of these players....maybe 4. A lot of the following players are CONN CHRIS's.

HB Marshawn Lynch LEVEL 38 - Western European Pro League
HB Mike Triplett Level 37 - San Francisco Fire - USA AAA - now USA PRO - 2000+ yards in season 5 for Mr. Triplett on an undefeated team USA AAA.
FB Beef A-La-Mode Level 39 - Manitoba - Canada AAA #2
TE Spainard Harris Level 37 - San Francisco Fire - see Mike Triplett.
C Bishop Blaze Level 38 - Manitoba - Canada AAA #2
LOT Jayson Peters Level 35 - Western European Pro League
G Cat's Meat Gadzee Level 37 - Manitoba - Canada AAA #2
G Carmelo Aleman Level 40 - Manitoba - Canada AAA #2
LB Joe Biggs Level 38 - Western European Pro League
LB Boom Boom Washington Level 33 - Manitoba - Canada AAA #2
K Yankee Sullivan Level 39 - Manitoba - Canada AAA #2
CB No Arms Chapman Level 35 - Manitoba - Canada AAA #2
WR Jason Alava Level 34 - Manitoba - Canada AAA #2

13 starters our of 24 (including K/P) are from AAA or Pro Leagues from last season.

You want to know why Chris didn't acquire the OOTP Ballers when they went up for sale? It was because he already owned the Mules and had since day 1. Chris has been the one and only owner of this team. The Mules started as a farm team, we build up a decent team coming into season 5 when the Ballers imploded and left a bunch of our players without a home so they came to the Ballers. The Ballers were formed by a bunch of guys who knew each from a forum so it makes sense that when they collapsed we brought our players over to a team that was owned by one of us. If you're going to come at us at least make you have your info straight.

I stand corrected on the ownership, however the Yellowknife Mules were 3-17 in the first "half" season and 0-8 in league play. Season 4 they were 5-19 and 2-14 in League Play.

Season 5....and now...since superior players from Higher Leagues were brought DOWN divisions within the same region.....

My statement is this is not ethically correct. This is not how the game is supposed to be played. My opinion. Period.

If youŽre going to start another whining thread, please explain the difference between bringing in higher leveled players (something you have done often) and bringing in players of the same level who have been on a Pro team? There is zero logic behind your claim that a level 37 who has not been on a pro team is an "ethical" addition and a level 37 who has is not.

Please release Fatty McPancake immediately you hypocrite. You brought him (a higher leveled player) in from a perennial WE AAA powerhouse. IŽll let you know if thereŽs any other "unethical" acquisitions on your roster in a moment.

While youŽre at it, you might as well release all your other players over level 35. Unless of course you can explain why a level 30+x player from a pro league=bad and a level 30+x player from a non pro league=good.

Originally posted by NFLVols
I stand corrected on the ownership, however the Yellowknife Mules were 3-17 in the first "half" season and 0-8 in league play. Season 4 they were 5-19 and 2-14 in League Play.

Season 5....and now...since superior players from Higher Leagues were brought DOWN divisions within the same region.....

My statement is this is not ethically correct. This is not how the game is supposed to be played. My opinion. Period.

1) We haven't played yet and our talent levels are somewhat close so I assume that you are laying down an excuse as to why you will eventually lose. You are a whiner

2) You have done the same with apparently less success. That doesn't make it wrong but it does make you a whining hyopcrite.

3) Some of the 'facts' that you get wrong here were pointed out to you in the other thread. That makes you a rather dull-witted, whining hicocrite.


I have never said anything bad about you or others in this league until yesterday when you started this silly thing for who knows what reason but you really are turning into an enormous fool.

Originally posted by
He acquired a team where he had a couple players already on....LBer and the Symonds. bought the team when it was originally released; the LB was brought here in season 4 when his contract expired and the team went 2-14; the QB was not even close to the highest level QB in this league when I purchased his contract from the team he was backing up at. I should have just waited for his contract to expire on day 5 because they didn't want him (LA Extreme) but I wanted to watch him play in preseason and they refused to release him so we traded - you know, you could have just looked at all the histories a little closer before trying so hard to claim that I have done something wrong

After he acquired this team (oops Nancy, that isn't correct)....he moved all of his players from a Canada AAA #2 team that had records of 13-6, 15-5, 19-1, 19-7 in the first 4 seasons owner went a little crazy and released/traded for cash everyone over a one-week period, signed all new players and then sold the team. The team went CPU in season 5, as to why Conn Chris didn't acquire that team....I don't know....sure seems like he should have I wasn't a GM and my players had been released and/or traded away before the team was even sold - one of my players is still with the team that he was traded to when that owner went a little off the deep end.....

lol, look if you want to blast things about me all over the forum at least try to get a grip on the facts Nancy. We/I haven't done anything improper and in fact nothing different than what you seem to have done - just better. Why are your panties all in a bunch over us?

Our best attribute is not a player, it is our outstanding group of GMs. We have solid gameplanning and player builds. If we bring in a high level player that is just business. If your not winning you find a way to win, thats it. Why must you try to turn the league against us?

Does anyone else know fondlenuts? Thats who this guy is trying to be like.

Just ironic you get chewed for bringing in higher level talent and I get told I can't recruit because I chose to stick with my guys...whatever! People just need reasons to complain.

Originally posted by stumanroo
Just ironic you get chewed for bringing in higher level talent and I get told I can't recruit because I chose to stick with my guys...whatever! People just need reasons to complain.

To be honest it is really silly to stick with who you have in uncapped leagues. If Bort wanted to either keep teams together or keep high levels out of lower leagues then he needs to have a level cap on every league.

But what part of as soon as the level cap is taken off, there are thousands of players that become available that were not before. Ones that would greatly improve your team. I realize that there is some "integrity" in keeping your team together and that is cool. But if you want to just kick it with you, I have a partition of my ventrillo server I can sell to your "loyality group" and you can stop paying money in a game that you are refusing to win in. Because that is what happens when you stick with the same guys. The leagues ahead of you are better and if you ever did advance by championship or otherwise, you wouldnt be able to compete in AA and that would be no fun.

When the Ballers exploded their best players didnt even go to the Mules. The mules got a handful of Chris players. Not as a gut job but Chris decided he wanted his players there, he could have brought them anywhere else.

I wish I could bring in my higher level players to the Mules instead of these super builds who are unboosted I have right now. Because if I randomly choose a team with an owner like you or NFLvols I would wish I could retire that player.

I dont care who other teams bring in, if the rules allow for it, it is all fair game in my book.

but once you are on the roster of a AA team, i think that the rules should be modified to prevent you from returning to A... same with AAA. You shouldn't be allowed to return to AA.


The agent must then make a decision on whether they want to move up to the next level or not

Otherwise there will be teams of rent-a-players that are on loan so that an owner can build a stadium. That seems to distort the intent of the game.....

my 2 cents

Originally posted by Vortox
I dont care who other teams bring in, if the rules allow for it, it is all fair game in my book.

but once you are on the roster of a AA team, i think that the rules should be modified to prevent you from returning to A... same with AAA. You shouldn't be allowed to return to AA.


The agent must then make a decision on whether they want to move up to the next level or not

Otherwise there will be teams of rent-a-players that are on loan so that an owner can build a stadium. That seems to distort the intent of the game.....

my 2 cents



That might be good for the game but could get quite messy with relegation. I think that eventually some sort of cap may be placed on all the leagues. The relegation problem would still pose a daunting challenge though so maybe that won't ever happen either.

Originally posted by BloodRunsCold
Originally posted by stumanroo

Just ironic you get chewed for bringing in higher level talent and I get told I can't recruit because I chose to stick with my guys...whatever! People just need reasons to complain.

To be honest it is really silly to stick with who you have in uncapped leagues. If Bort wanted to either keep teams together or keep high levels out of lower leagues then he needs to have a level cap on every league.

But what part of as soon as the level cap is taken off, there are thousands of players that become available that were not before. Ones that would greatly improve your team. I realize that there is some "integrity" in keeping your team together and that is cool. But if you want to just kick it with you, I have a partition of my ventrillo server I can sell to your "loyality group" and you can stop paying money in a game that you are refusing to win in. Because that is what happens when you stick with the same guys. The leagues ahead of you are better and if you ever did advance by championship or otherwise, you wouldnt be able to compete in AA and that would be no fun.

When the Ballers exploded their best players didnt even go to the Mules. The mules got a handful of Chris players. Not as a gut job but Chris decided he wanted his players there, he could have brought them anywhere else.

I wish I could bring in my higher level players to the Mules instead of these super builds who are unboosted I have right now. Because if I randomly choose a team with an owner like you or NFLvols I would wish I could retire that player.

We are gonna have to agree to disagree. Teams like Marleys and us will continue to close the gap...and we have proven that with just a little more we will compete. Besides that teams are going by the wayside all fo the time and are moving to the bottom. I could go into Canada AA #1 right now and beat 1/3 of them in the western conference right now. We also DO have players lined up to come in as players decide to leave...because that happens every season.

That being said...no way we could compete with your team right now, I know that! We may never compete with your team! But we will always be competitive and look forward to challenges. Cupcakes are nice and so are padded stats but if I wanted those I would just go play my Madden! I want to have glory for those games we come up with wins inside the win not just the win itslef! Besides this game is not ALL about the stats and winning, it is about the comradery! I have met some people on this game that I can call friends and that is enough for me!

But to each his own...we will just continue to agree to disagree. Just remember, you chose to do what you did and I am cool with that...I chose to do what I have done and I would hope that people can respect me for my decision. You won't hear me badmouthing you for your choice. I will upgrade when I need to...just isn't a place of need yet!

Originally posted by stumanroo

But to each his own...we will just continue to agree to disagree. Just remember, you chose to do what you did and I am cool with that...I chose to do what I have done and I would hope that people can respect me for my decision. You won't hear me badmouthing you for your choice. I will upgrade when I need to...just isn't a place of need yet!

We all do go about this differently, if you are having fun that is what is most important. I absolutely love yacking with my team mates in our forum(s). I have come to know and like a lot of people in this league and can do without the whiny little girls like Vols that for some reason try to create issues where none exist. Every league seems to have at least one though and they make for good entertainment now and then. Vols has been particularly fun though because he doesn't seem to have facts straight (facts which don't even mean anything if they were straight to begin with) and mostly because he didn't think it through completely.

Originally posted by Kevin Smith
Please release Fatty McPancake immediately you hypocrite. You brought him (a higher leveled player) in from a perennial WE AAA powerhouse. IŽll let you know if thereŽs any other "unethical" acquisitions on your roster in a moment.

Originally posted by Kevin Smith
I canŽt believe it. IŽm going over your roster and you have been bringing in higher leveled players since the cap went tits up. So, youŽre basically complaining that the high level players Chris has brought in are performing better than the ones you got. Way to take whining to a new low. I hope your teammates appreciate you complaining about them so publicly.