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Tonights discussion will centre on whether or not the valence bond theory or the molecular orbital theory is the correct theory when discussing the mode of bonding within chemical compounds. Both are feasible models to work with and indeed some aspects of each can be applied to the same molecule being used as an example of bonding. However which do you feel, given todays knowledge of such things as metal-metal bonds, is the right one to focus our research on moving forwards?

Personally I favour valence bond theory but Im biased by preferring the maths involved. So if anyone has any opinions I believe wed all love to hear about something more intellectual for once. Discuss away!

COOL! An all science and intellectual discussion site!

One of the limitations of valence bond theory is that it assumes all bonds are
localized bonds. As we see, this is not a valid assumption.


Where as chemical bonding in the Molecular Orbital theory is based on quantum mechanics that states that a chemical bond is a combination of atomic orbitals that form molecular orbitals. Molecular orbitals are often delocalized over two or more atoms.

GG guys. You really gave us a tough run.

Originally posted by EmpYllek
Tonights discussion will centre on whether or not the valence bond theory or the molecular orbital theory is the correct theory when discussing the mode of bonding within chemical compounds. Both are feasible models to work with and indeed some aspects of each can be applied to the same molecule being used as an example of bonding. However which do you feel, given todays knowledge of such things as metal-metal bonds, is the right one to focus our research on moving forwards?

Personally I favour valence bond theory but Im biased by preferring the maths involved. So if anyone has any opinions I believe wed all love to hear about something more intellectual for once. Discuss away!

While I appreciate the attempt to have an intellectual discussion, I must say by your asking whether or not the valence bond theory or the molecular orbital theory is the correct theory when discussing the mode of bonding within chemical compounds, you made one big mistake: A theory is can not be correct by definition. If in fact a theory is correct, then it is no longer a theory, but it now becomes a fact. But you probably already knew that.

I actually didnt ask which was correct. I asked which was the one we should concentrate on proving/disproving through research.

Also Dave I dont appreciate the wikipedia approach.

Orbital Theory. Heisenburg principle for the win.

Originally posted by EmpYllek
I actually didnt ask which was correct. I asked which was the one we should concentrate on proving/disproving through research.

Also Dave I dont appreciate the wikipedia approach.

Well I think one of the biggest mistakes we could make is to only concentrate on one theory as the more correct perception. The most responsible way to approach the problem would be to reaserch both theories and try to figure out which bits and pieces of each theory represent that actual behavior in nature. I mean, we have the dual properties of light, and physics has shown that no matter how large/small a partical it always has wave-like properties, no matter how small the waves. Why can't we look at the problem, as if each thoery has a portion of what's really happening, reasearch both aspects and revise a new theory based on observation?

I cant believe you people are actually discussing this. This is seriously complicated quantum chemistry - yesterday we were talking about vulva.

Mesons or Quarks? Who has more relevance when discussing the universes missing mass?

Originally posted by EmpYllek
I cant believe you people are actually discussing this. This is seriously complicated quantum chemistry - yesterday we were talking about vulva.

What, you think we're just a bunch of sports fenatics?

Originally posted by Stonewall
Originally posted by EmpYllek

I cant believe you people are actually discussing this. This is seriously complicated quantum chemistry - yesterday we were talking about vulva.

What, you think we're just a bunch of sports fenatics?


Not being a sports "fenatic" would explain why your team sucks..:uhh

Ask Empy what a Fenian is....i know, i know.

fuck

Cack

It always comes to this.