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It's true. those good defensive ends probably have at most, strength capped. They have an advantage over Tackles because they get .5 a level in speed and agility. a long with .5 in str and tackling.

What if you built a tackle to stop this?

What if tackles double capped agility first? with plans to cap str and blocking later.

What if you just capped str and double capped blocking, after double capping agility to get the level gains for it. after you cap str and blocking, cap speed, then work on stamina vision and confidence, and protector s.a.?

You have to think that most tackles are good because of their "good feet" they are usually very agile fat and big. They are strong and good at blocking as well.

I think tackles are at a big disadvantage in the first place, with very little level gains on agility and none in speed. While defensive ends can either pump speed to infinity or agility to infinity while adding a full point per every 2 levels. But while they are doing this they are neglecting str.

It leads me to believe the traditional builds that everyone goes by seems wrong. I truly believe you would be fine with only capped str. maybe double capped blocking since it falls in line with protect.

think about it. if you cap agility first you will be able to keep up, and by the time those ends have 90ish speed or agility, they will be ready to pump str., and so will you.

I don't know just speculation.

The counter-build to the speed rush DEs...

#1 spread the points and EQ around more. No more 3rd capping str and blocking.

#2 speed is important too.

#3 don't bother with SAs until you have enough attributes (soft capped blocking, strength, speed... 2nd capped agility and a decent amount of vision and confidence, like 30+).

Basically once you have this set up, you can start 2nd or 3rd capping str/blk. Although you need a second set of EQ, which you swap depending on the type of DE you face.

Low level DEs can't do anything. My level 17 DE with 55 str, 70 agi and 30 spd hasn't done a thing against OTs with average builds. Maybe once I cap speed... I think the problem is at higher levels.

How many seasons are you going to play?

You can have strength, blocking, agility, and speed all at 2nd cap by level 32, your third season. If you bring up strength and blocking first, by the time you reach level 32 then strength and blocking will be close to the third cap anyway.

You can try to build the best level 20 player by spreading your points more evenly among strength, blocking, agility, and speed, or you can build a better player for the later seasons by focusing on only one or two attributes at a time. You would still have a decent lower level player but that player will be much better later if you concentrate on raising two of the attributes that get the most automatic points when you level up.

I've been experimenting with this concept in one of my OTs. It's work okay so far but I haven't been playing the best competition either.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=955141

Originally posted by wvboy
I've been experimenting with this concept in one of my OTs. It's work okay so far but I haven't been playing the best competition either.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=955141

That's awesome. keep me updated. Protect is getting a boost too. It should be nice.

My Lv 12 T, Michael Oher, currently looks like this:
Strength: 21.4 Blocking: 63.4
Speed: 15 Tackling: 15.5
Agility: 49.4 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 9 Catching: 8
Stamina: 17.5 Carrying: 8
Vision: 19.4 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 14.4 Punting: 8

And has never given up a sack.

Originally posted by Kayoh
My Lv 12 T, Michael Oher, currently looks like this:
Strength: 21.4 Blocking: 63.4
Speed: 15 Tackling: 15.5
Agility: 49.4 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 9 Catching: 8
Stamina: 17.5 Carrying: 8
Vision: 19.4 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 14.4 Punting: 8

And has never given up a sack.

This is the exact same model I am going for w/ my new OT. I already capped Blocking and I'm going to cap Agility and then double cap blocking while training Strength/Stamina mainly. Should be interesting

Speed is next for me.

Originally posted by Kayoh
My Lv 12 T, Michael Oher, currently looks like this:
Strength: 21.4 Blocking: 63.4
Speed: 15 Tackling: 15.5
Agility: 49.4 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 9 Catching: 8
Stamina: 17.5 Carrying: 8
Vision: 19.4 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 14.4 Punting: 8

And has never given up a sack.

Very nice. you probably won't have to start working on strength till level 21-24ish, but it's your call. That's about the same time those high level ends start working on theirs.

Originally posted by Kayoh
Speed is next for me.

would you be interested in raising agility to 68 natural so you can have 90 agility by level 24?

Edit: nah, never mind, after speed you won't have enough time to get agility up to 68 natural.

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"Please nerf Bull Rushing DE's"

Originally posted by PackMan97
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"Please nerf Bull Rushing DE's"

Why would that be? If OT's with 80 STR can't pancake a DE with 30, why should a 80 STR DE do jack to a 50 STR OT?

Originally posted by joeflex73
Originally posted by PackMan97

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"Please nerf Bull Rushing DE's"

Why would that be? If OT's with 80 STR can't pancake a DE with 30, why should a 80 STR DE do jack to a 50 STR OT?

2 sides of the same problem: strength is worth crap. A 80 strength guy should just manhandle a 50 strength guy - no matter who's playing offense and who's playing defense.

The problem with speed rushers is homegrown. Because strength DEs can't do jack, DEs are all hopping on the speed/agility train. If Bort lets strength DEs burst through the middle, this thinking might change.