lv7 RG can take str to 60. Would you keep going to 68? I think I'd prefer to move on to blk/agility/speed etc now that there are HB screen plays, pull a lot more I guess?
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Do you want to contribute this coming season, or build? Speed/agility is less important if you're still building.
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The rule of thumb I use is that you can soft cap a skill every 4.5 levels (give or take 0.25). So, what do you want? 3 cap on BLK, 3 cap on STR, 1 cap on spd and 1 cap on agi. That's 8 caps, 8 * 4.5 = L36 until you are ready. If you 2 cap BLK/STR that's ready at L27.
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Thanks for the tip.
I think I'll move on, .67 / level means that at level 30, I'll have like 74 anyway which is good enough for RG imo.
FWIW I'm shooing for 2str,2blk,2agi,1spd,1vis,1conf, very balanced build but built with slowbuilding those first caps should actually end up well over the 3rd so he'll perform well.
I think I'll move on, .67 / level means that at level 30, I'll have like 74 anyway which is good enough for RG imo.
FWIW I'm shooing for 2str,2blk,2agi,1spd,1vis,1conf, very balanced build but built with slowbuilding those first caps should actually end up well over the 3rd so he'll perform well.
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Originally posted by Octowned
Thanks for the tip.
I think I'll move on, .67 / level means that at level 30, I'll have like 74 anyway which is good enough for RG imo.
FWIW I'm shooing for 2str,2blk,2agi,1spd,1vis,1conf, very balanced build but built with slowbuilding those first caps should actually end up well over the 3rd so he'll perform well.
Gaurds don't need double capped agility or capped speed. at all. maybe agility capped once, with about 35-40 speed.
Thanks for the tip.
I think I'll move on, .67 / level means that at level 30, I'll have like 74 anyway which is good enough for RG imo.
FWIW I'm shooing for 2str,2blk,2agi,1spd,1vis,1conf, very balanced build but built with slowbuilding those first caps should actually end up well over the 3rd so he'll perform well.
Gaurds don't need double capped agility or capped speed. at all. maybe agility capped once, with about 35-40 speed.
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Originally posted by Octowned
Thanks for the tip.
I think I'll move on, .67 / level means that at level 30, I'll have like 74 anyway which is good enough for RG imo.
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It'll go down once you're reaching lv. 22 and again once you're reaching lv. 29.
Thanks for the tip.
I think I'll move on, .67 / level means that at level 30, I'll have like 74 anyway which is good enough for RG imo.
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It'll go down once you're reaching lv. 22 and again once you're reaching lv. 29.
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Gaurds don't need double capped agility or capped speed. at all. maybe agility capped once, with about 35-40 speed.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=378024&playoffs=0
Your QB was sacked 42 times, hurried 54 times
The Dallas Kull Warriors who you have most of an OL for was sacked 17 times and hurried 66.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=689498&playoffs=0
I'm not sure if you have all the information available.
Personally, I wouldn't recruit a G without speed and agility capped with plans for agility to 60. There is just no way a slow and clumsy G is gonna be able to handle a DT with 70 str/70 agi and 60 speed. It just ain't happening.
Gaurds don't need double capped agility or capped speed. at all. maybe agility capped once, with about 35-40 speed.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=378024&playoffs=0
Your QB was sacked 42 times, hurried 54 times
The Dallas Kull Warriors who you have most of an OL for was sacked 17 times and hurried 66.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=689498&playoffs=0
I'm not sure if you have all the information available.
Personally, I wouldn't recruit a G without speed and agility capped with plans for agility to 60. There is just no way a slow and clumsy G is gonna be able to handle a DT with 70 str/70 agi and 60 speed. It just ain't happening.
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Originally posted by PackMan97
Originally posted by UnderDogs
Gaurds don't need double capped agility or capped speed. at all. maybe agility capped once, with about 35-40 speed.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=378024&playoffs=0
Your QB was sacked 42 times, hurried 54 times
The Dallas Kull Warriors who you have most of an OL for was sacked 17 times and hurried 66.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=689498&playoffs=0
I'm not sure if you have all the information available.
Personally, I wouldn't recruit a G without speed and agility capped with plans for agility to 60. There is just no way a slow and clumsy G is gonna be able to handle a DT with 70 str/70 agi and 60 speed. It just ain't happening.
the whole line the team my quarterback is on sucked. I posted a thread about that a while ago. you should probably keep up if you take that much interest in me.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1269436
Yeah use my low level capped 13 team with no guards on it as an example. You don't even own your own team for one.
My own o-lines signed on the team because I couldn't find any good ones. I had to start from scratch and power build them They were level 1 at the beginning of the season now level 11. Try a different approach.
Let's dig up my center with 31 speed and capped agility who played right guard most of last year for an AAA gutted team shall we?
Originally posted by UnderDogs
Gaurds don't need double capped agility or capped speed. at all. maybe agility capped once, with about 35-40 speed.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=378024&playoffs=0
Your QB was sacked 42 times, hurried 54 times
The Dallas Kull Warriors who you have most of an OL for was sacked 17 times and hurried 66.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=689498&playoffs=0
I'm not sure if you have all the information available.
Personally, I wouldn't recruit a G without speed and agility capped with plans for agility to 60. There is just no way a slow and clumsy G is gonna be able to handle a DT with 70 str/70 agi and 60 speed. It just ain't happening.
the whole line the team my quarterback is on sucked. I posted a thread about that a while ago. you should probably keep up if you take that much interest in me.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1269436
Yeah use my low level capped 13 team with no guards on it as an example. You don't even own your own team for one.
My own o-lines signed on the team because I couldn't find any good ones. I had to start from scratch and power build them They were level 1 at the beginning of the season now level 11. Try a different approach.
Let's dig up my center with 31 speed and capped agility who played right guard most of last year for an AAA gutted team shall we?
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140786&pbp_id=6790667
one of many plays where he pulled the right guard has 30 speed and 49 agility. he is way ahead of the play and way ahead of the full back. so whatever.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140786&pbp_id=6790715
picking up a cornerback?? those guys are slow as we all know.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140786&pbp_id=6790734
didn't you mention something about defensive tackles or something? he pancaked him then picked up the linebacker here.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140786&pbp_id=6791775
Here he is stopping those slow SS's
just small examples there are tons more I can dig up. TONS but I gotta go for now.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140799&pbp_id=1126447
Bullying the NT, he opened the hole, not his fualt the fb can't pick up a stinking linebacker like he should.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140800&pbp_id=1705208
Here he is pulling into position before the ply develops again. only to have missed assignments by the other players around him. and don't say he missed the L.e. because the ROT and tight end should have had him.
I love this one. Blocking the NT and linebacker at the same time. I tell ya he has 30 speed.he goes back and forth between the two.http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140800&pbp_id=1705292
watch him on this play he goes for the NT then the center picks him up, he then goes to his next assignment the linebacker with ease. Then the center gives up the NT and he goes back to the Nt again. This play broke down from the start, but it wasn't on his side.http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140800&pbp_id=1710598
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140800&pbp_id=1710645 play after play he has to do it all himself.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140769&pbp_id=2877627 another one of the numerous pitch plays to the right where he gets in position to do his job, just fine with 30 speed.
He has 32 speed now I am training it up to 40, but I refuse to cap it, or spend a single sp in it. and I am gladly using those sp's i'm not using to cap speed on other things. If I was a L.O.T. i would probably double cap agility and cap speed. But guards don't need it so much.
one of many plays where he pulled the right guard has 30 speed and 49 agility. he is way ahead of the play and way ahead of the full back. so whatever.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140786&pbp_id=6790715
picking up a cornerback?? those guys are slow as we all know.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140786&pbp_id=6790734
didn't you mention something about defensive tackles or something? he pancaked him then picked up the linebacker here.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140786&pbp_id=6791775
Here he is stopping those slow SS's
just small examples there are tons more I can dig up. TONS but I gotta go for now.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140799&pbp_id=1126447
Bullying the NT, he opened the hole, not his fualt the fb can't pick up a stinking linebacker like he should.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140800&pbp_id=1705208
Here he is pulling into position before the ply develops again. only to have missed assignments by the other players around him. and don't say he missed the L.e. because the ROT and tight end should have had him.
I love this one. Blocking the NT and linebacker at the same time. I tell ya he has 30 speed.he goes back and forth between the two.http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140800&pbp_id=1705292
watch him on this play he goes for the NT then the center picks him up, he then goes to his next assignment the linebacker with ease. Then the center gives up the NT and he goes back to the Nt again. This play broke down from the start, but it wasn't on his side.http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140800&pbp_id=1710598
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140800&pbp_id=1710645 play after play he has to do it all himself.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140769&pbp_id=2877627 another one of the numerous pitch plays to the right where he gets in position to do his job, just fine with 30 speed.
He has 32 speed now I am training it up to 40, but I refuse to cap it, or spend a single sp in it. and I am gladly using those sp's i'm not using to cap speed on other things. If I was a L.O.T. i would probably double cap agility and cap speed. But guards don't need it so much.
Last edited Oct 29, 2008 08:45:57
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
He has 32 speed now I am training it up to 40, but I refuse to cap it, or spend a single sp in it. and I am gladly using those sp's i'm not using to cap speed on other things. If I was a L.O.T. i would probably double cap agility and cap speed. But guards don't need it so much.
I am doing this also. It will take me 2 seasons of training to raise speed to 37, and agility to 53 with the gains, but I will only put SP into agility to take it to close to 60 after that. Speed can sit at 37.
Underdogs - your thoughts on soft-capping vision for a RG please? This is something I am considering doing.
He has 32 speed now I am training it up to 40, but I refuse to cap it, or spend a single sp in it. and I am gladly using those sp's i'm not using to cap speed on other things. If I was a L.O.T. i would probably double cap agility and cap speed. But guards don't need it so much.
I am doing this also. It will take me 2 seasons of training to raise speed to 37, and agility to 53 with the gains, but I will only put SP into agility to take it to close to 60 after that. Speed can sit at 37.
Underdogs - your thoughts on soft-capping vision for a RG please? This is something I am considering doing.
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If you haven't put it together DTs are the new speed DE's. DTs get .66 agility per level for the first 23 levels and around .5 after that. Therefore, DTs can be the most agile players on the entire team! So facing a DT with 90 agility/70+ strength will be common in the future.
Having a guard with 30-40 speed/48 agility simply won't be enough in a season or two, despite game film showing it's ok right now.
Having a guard with 30-40 speed/48 agility simply won't be enough in a season or two, despite game film showing it's ok right now.
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To the OP. I think it's probably a good idea to not invest points into strength/blocking to 68. I'd get strength and blocking to 60 and let level bonuses do the rest of the work. Put the points you save into agility to 60, and speed to 48-60. This type of guard should do very well in a season or two, or by the time you've got him to level 25+.
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
He has 32 speed now I am training it up to 40, but I refuse to cap it, or spend a single sp in it. and I am gladly using those sp's i'm not using to cap speed on other things. If I was a L.O.T. i would probably double cap agility and cap speed. But guards don't need it so much.
You are right, I am wrong.
He has 32 speed now I am training it up to 40, but I refuse to cap it, or spend a single sp in it. and I am gladly using those sp's i'm not using to cap speed on other things. If I was a L.O.T. i would probably double cap agility and cap speed. But guards don't need it so much.
You are right, I am wrong.
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It really depends on LG or RG. A RG needs more blocking, speed, and vision than a LG. A LG needs more strength and agility than a RG.
Now the speed part for RG could change if
1. You don't run outside a lot so RG doesn't have to pull
2. Bort changes the stupid blocking scheme where RG picks up a blitzing ROLB
I still think build to shoot for after getting level 32 upgrades (unless you have C playing G then he can be even better)
RG: Strength 85 Blocking 75 Agility 50 Speed 45 Stamina 40 Confidence & Vision 35-40
LG: Strength 90 Blocking 70 Agility 60 Speed 35-40 Stamina 40 Confidence 35 Vision 30-35
Now the speed part for RG could change if
1. You don't run outside a lot so RG doesn't have to pull
2. Bort changes the stupid blocking scheme where RG picks up a blitzing ROLB
I still think build to shoot for after getting level 32 upgrades (unless you have C playing G then he can be even better)
RG: Strength 85 Blocking 75 Agility 50 Speed 45 Stamina 40 Confidence & Vision 35-40
LG: Strength 90 Blocking 70 Agility 60 Speed 35-40 Stamina 40 Confidence 35 Vision 30-35
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Level 32 build w/ custom
90 str
80 blk
61 agi
50 conf
48 vis
30 spd
30 sta
More fun will be at level 40, boasting a nicer
94 str
84 blk
62 agi
53 conf
50 vis
48 spd
40 sta
and a complete slew of SAs
Guess that projection answers my question about taking str/blk to 68, definitely not!
Any lv40 Gs coming close to that these days?
90 str
80 blk
61 agi
50 conf
48 vis
30 spd
30 sta
More fun will be at level 40, boasting a nicer
94 str
84 blk
62 agi
53 conf
50 vis
48 spd
40 sta
and a complete slew of SAs
Guess that projection answers my question about taking str/blk to 68, definitely not!
Any lv40 Gs coming close to that these days?
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