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If one were to make a squad of 10 players devoted solely to Special Teams (coverage/returns), what would be good builds?

In particular, how important is Vision to special teams effectiveness? Obviously Speed/Agility are a primary concern, and some Tackle/Blocking, and supporting Strength.

Any thoughts on what makes a great Special Teams player?

KOS, you'd want strength/tackling. KRS, you'd want strength/blocking.

speed, agility, blocking, tackling (forget strength, what good does a pancake do? you won't outrun the returner and the guy knocked down will get back up and make the tackle)

I don't think vision is all that important (30 or so) as blockers need to see which guy to block, but you don't want him to let one guy go to block a deeper "threat" downfield.

I'd have speed/agility as high as possible, blocking around 48, tackling around 30.

Also, if you're going to build your own 10 players:

CB-SS-TE-TE-TE-SS-CB

LB-FB-LB


Good balance of speed and strength. I'm not a big fan of having O-Line as your middle blockers.

Awesome assessment, thanks!

I'd say create Centers, it's less flex points and they get the best roll on strength and blocking.

Originally posted by rs2k2

Good balance of speed and strength. I'm not a big fan of having O-Line as your middle blockers.


I have a DT who's a back up on a team so he also plays special teams, he has more pancakes just from KRS than half of the O-line do.

Originally posted by Viscount
I'd say create Centers, it's less flex points and they get the best roll on strength and blocking.


Yep, just get a load of guys with high speed/block/tackle/agility and you will have a sick spec team.

Originally posted by Kingdan23
Originally posted by Viscount

I'd say create Centers, it's less flex points and they get the best roll on strength and blocking.


Yep, just get a load of guys with high speed/block/tackle/agility and you will have a sick spec team.

Those sound like OTs. They get .4 or .5 of those EVERY level.

for KOS. I'd build either 10 SSs or 10 DEs. That way you can evntually get Shed Block/First Step or Super Vision/Closing Speed

Originally posted by Tito716
Originally posted by Kingdan23

Originally posted by Viscount


I'd say create Centers, it's less flex points and they get the best roll on strength and blocking.


Yep, just get a load of guys with high speed/block/tackle/agility and you will have a sick spec team.

Those sound like OTs. They get .4 or .5 of those EVERY level.

for KOS. I'd build either 10 SSs or 10 DEs. That way you can evntually get Shed Block/First Step or Super Vision/Closing Speed

For the sake of creating 10 special teamers, I wouldnt consider creating anything other than 100fp positions.

EDIT: fucking quote fails lol

Originally posted by Kingdan23
Originally posted by Tito716

Originally posted by Kingdan23


Originally posted by Viscount



I'd say create Centers, it's less flex points and they get the best roll on strength and blocking.


Yep, just get a load of guys with high speed/block/tackle/agility and you will have a sick spec team.

Those sound like OTs. They get .4 or .5 of those EVERY level.

for KOS. I'd build either 10 SSs or 10 DEs. That way you can evntually get Shed Block/First Step or Super Vision/Closing Speed

For the sake of creating 10 special teamers, I wouldnt consider creating anything other than 100fp positions.

EDIT: fucking quote fails lol

I wouldn't even spend 100 FP per player making special teamers. I still think that a team of DEs or SSs would be the best KOS team you could make.

Make two gunners with nothing but speed str and tackling. And set to force fumbles

Speed and agility are everything in special teams, even block and tackle come in second or third. Get a player close to the returner, he slows him down enough for the swarm to arrive, and someone will get the Tackle.

I will say "Defensive" pancakes came from speed not strength that I saw. and not
only can you run down a reciever you could be there to catch the punt.

Build all OTs. They get .4 Blocking, Strength, Agility, Vision and Confidence per level along with .5 Tackling and Stamina. They're perfect to play both sides on Special Teams. Start out by maxing SPD and AGI, then work Blocking and Tackling up together, focusing more on Blocking. Basically, try to get Tackling up to 35 by the time Blocking reaches the softcap. Then cap Vision. Voila.

Originally posted by xeef
(CB) Stumble McFumble
Height: 71in. (5'11") Weight: 190lbs
Created: Season 1, day 21 (Apr 1, 2008)
Contract: $124,400.00/yr - Exp. season 5, Day 40
Team: Kansas Flashpoint

12 returns TDs in season 4. (+ 1 INT)

Strength: 33.09 Blocking: 8
Speed: 65.09 Tackling: 28.48
Agility: 61.42 Throwing: 10
Jumping: 24.4 Catching: 27.84
Stamina: 45.93 Carrying: 19.42
Vision: 44.6 Kicking: 10
Confidence: 24.28 Punting: 8


Super vision is at 3.
54511 speed tree

So ask yourself, whats special about this guy, not much at first glance.

The answer is his blockers, all are level 20/21 and run both ways on ST only:


G) Rosterspot Rosterspot
Height: 76in. (6'4") Weight: 323lbs
Created: Season 2, day 24 (May 19, 2008)
Contract: $107,680.00/yr - Exp. season 6, Day 40
Team: Kansas Flashpoint

Strength: 49.38 Blocking: 49.38
Speed: 66 Tackling: 24.39
Agility: 48.87 Throwing: 7
Jumping: 9 Catching: 7
Stamina: 24.34 Carrying: 10
Vision: 27.68 Kicking: 10
Confidence: 28.38 Punting: 8


(OT) Kickoff Twentysix
Height: 77in. (6'5") Weight: 294lbs
Created: Season 2, day 29 (May 24, 2008)
Contract: $91,360.00/yr - Exp. season 5, Day 40
Team: Kansas Flashpoint

Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 50.58 Blocking: 46.36
Speed: 65 Tackling: 31.29
Agility: 50.12 Throwing: 7
Jumping: 14.55 Catching: 7
Stamina: 36 Carrying: 7
Vision: 36.84 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 36 Punting: 7



(G) The Bug Workman
Height: 74in. (6'2") Weight: 330lbs
Created: Season 2, day 30 (May 25, 2008)
Contract: $74,000.00/yr - Exp. season 5, Day 40
Team: Kansas Flashpoint

Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 48.37 Blocking: 39.37
Speed: 66 Tackling: 30.66
Agility: 49.61 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 8 Catching: 8
Stamina: 25.87 Carrying: 9.13
Vision: 29.43 Kicking: 9
Confidence: 27.37 Punting: 8



(G) Mendy Weiss
Height: 77in. (6'5") Weight: 292lbs
Created: Season 2, day 30 (May 25, 2008)
Contract: $73,480.00/yr - Exp. season 5, Day 40
Team: Kansas Flashpoint

Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 47.85 Blocking: 34.02
Speed: 65 Tackling: 32.07
Agility: 51.37 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 11.53 Catching: 8
Stamina: 26.87 Carrying: 9
Vision: 29.27 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 26.37 Punting: 8



(C) Vincent Coll
Height: 76in. (6'4") Weight: 297lbs
Created: Season 2, day 30 (May 25, 2008)
Contract: $74,000.00/yr - Exp. season 6, Day 40
Team: Kansas Flashpoint

Strength: 50 Blocking: 40
Speed: 65 Tackling: 27.89
Agility: 51.45 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 9 Catching: 8
Stamina: 25.98 Carrying: 8
Vision: 28.74 Kicking: 9
Confidence: 21.63 Punting: 8



(G) Blue Jaw Magoon
Height: 75in. (6'3") Weight: 325lbs
Created: Season 2, day 30 (May 25, 2008)
Contract: $74,000.00/yr - Exp. season 5, Day 40
Team: Kansas Flashpoint

Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 48.56 Blocking: 30.7
Speed: 65 Tackling: 25.68
Agility: 51 Throwing: 10
Jumping: 9 Catching: 10.73
Stamina: 28.2 Carrying: 8
Vision: 30.3 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 26.7 Punting: 8



(C) Dasher Abbandando
Height: 73in. (6'1") Weight: 330lbs
Created: Season 2, day 31 (May 26, 2008)
Contract: $74,240.00/yr - Exp. season 5, Day 40
Team: Kansas Flashpoint

Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 50 Blocking: 41
Speed: 64 Tackling: 30.01
Agility: 48.8 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 8 Catching: 8
Stamina: 26.35 Carrying: 8
Vision: 27.76 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 24.46 Punting: 8


(C) Milwaukee Phil
Height: 72in. (6'0") Weight: 320lbs
Created: Season 2, day 32 (May 27, 2008)
Contract: $83,440.00/yr - Exp. season 5, Day 40
Team: Kansas Flashpoint

Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 49 Blocking: 42
Speed: 67 Tackling: 29.94
Agility: 48.8 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 10 Catching: 8
Stamina: 24.8 Carrying: 8
Vision: 25.96 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 21.9 Punting: 9


(C) Tommy Gunn Lucchese
Height: 72in. (6'0") Weight: 310lbs
Created: Season 2, day 33 (May 28, 2008)
Contract: $84,000.00/yr - Exp. season 5, Day 40
Team: Kansas Flashpoint

Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 50 Blocking: 42
Speed: 63 Tackling: 28.84
Agility: 49.05 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 8 Catching: 9
Stamina: 25.66 Carrying: 8
Vision: 23.97 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 25.94 Punting: 9



(C) Abe Reles
Height: 75in. (6'3") Weight: 324lbs
Created: Season 2, day 38 (Jun 2, 2008)
Contract: $83,200.00/yr - Exp. season 5, Day 40
Team: Kansas Flashpoint

Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 46 Blocking: 45
Speed: 65 Tackling: 26.12
Agility: 48.6 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 9 Catching: 8
Stamina: 23.8 Carrying: 8
Vision: 28.11 Kicking: 9
Confidence: 24.52 Punting: 8



(C) Harry Strauss
Height: 73in. (6'1") Weight: 291lbs
Created: Season 2, day 34 (May 29, 2008)
Contract: $83,560.00/yr - Exp. season 5, Day 40
Team: Kansas Flashpoint

Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 50 Blocking: 39
Speed: 65 Tackling: 30.25
Agility: 49.19 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 8 Catching: 8
Stamina: 27.74 Carrying: 8
Vision: 26.67 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 21.31 Punting: 8


(C) Allie Tannenbaum
Height: 73in. (6'1") Weight: 323lbs
Created: Season 2, day 41 (Jun 5, 2008)
Contract: $83,200.00/yr - Exp. season 5, Day 40
Team: Kansas Flashpoint

Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 49 Blocking: 46
Speed: 63 Tackling: 30.09
Agility: 49.33 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 8 Catching: 8
Stamina: 23.8 Carrying: 8
Vision: 23.8 Kicking: 9
Confidence: 21.44 Punting: 9

Taken from the KR/PR specialist forum