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Sykonaut
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I'm trying to slowbuild a couple of characters, but I don't understand it completely.

Do you wait till you can softcap one attribute, like speed for an LB, and put it all in there, so it's something like 48 for one stat, and sub 20 for everything else?
 
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I would say first or second soft cap. The only problem going 2 right away is your player will most likely be horrible until level 16+.
 
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So, I should wait till I can soft cap till 48, the first soft cap, for one attribute. Then, soft cap it with all I have, and then rinse and repeat?

So, in the example, I should soft cap speed to 48 for the LB ASAP?
 
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it all depends upon your plans. Can you stay in the D league for 2 seasons? If so then you can do some F'd up soft capping. If you are planning on hitting up the human teams in your 2nd season then you will have to do 1st soft cap for a couple of abilities then possibly look at 2nd soft capping. Otherwise nobody will want you on the team because you will be really lacking in one or more areas.

Your guy your build. Your players are still young yet. http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=78600 go down about 3/4qtrs of the screen and you will see major/minor stats. Hit up the major stats first and you should be ok. Do some research in the position forums.

I like to help people fix players not build them from scratch.

I am doing a slow build with my new CB and I am waiting to use my SP until I am able to get to the 1st soft cap in one stat because in the mean time I am training 2 stats on intense that I want to get to the 1st soft cap. Plan ahead with soft capping and training. See your options do they make sense for what you are going to soft cap. Example: I am training speed & agility on intense. Once I save enough SP to get agility to the first soft cap then I'll train speed & stamina. and so on...
 
Sykonaut
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Okay, makes sense.

If there is anyone who specializes in helping build from scratch, opinions are welcome!

Thanks for your help.
 
Xelstyle
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Soft cap essentially requires you to get your primary attributes to 48.07.
Start with the most important (In your case, speed) and just keep going from there.
You should be able to cap at least 2 skills by level 11~.
 
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With a good roll, you'll softcap your first one at level 3. Dump all the points in then. Should take you 6 more levels (to 9) to softcap a second if you train right. You're best off finding a team to do it on, so that EXP gets distributed plenty to everyone. Only problem is they typically lock you in long term so you all suck together for seasons one and two, and you can some later seasons (but have to stay there, even if the people suck).
 
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Originally posted by Sykonaut
So, I should wait till I can soft cap till 48, the first soft cap, for one attribute. Then, soft cap it with all I have, and then rinse and repeat?

So, in the example, I should soft cap speed to 48 for the LB ASAP?


Yes, if your player has many primary abilities - WR, LB, etc.

If your player has more specialized primaries, i.e. punter, center, guard, DT, consider going to the second soft-cap before moving on to the non-primaries. For instance with a punter, you'd want to go to the 3rd or 4th soft-cap on punting before bringing anything else up. Centers you'd likely want to get both Str and Blk to 2nd soft-cap, etc.
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I would intense train your top two attributes to 30 and save all the skill points. Once at 30 throw them in to get those two attributes to the soft cap. Once that is done, repeat process with the next two most important attributes, rinse and repeat.
 
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Originally posted by Mob-6
I would intense train your top two attributes to 30 and save all the skill points. Once at 30 throw them in to get those two attributes to the soft cap. Once that is done, repeat process with the next two most important attributes, rinse and repeat.


This is not worth it. It wastes far too much of your leveling bonus. This would only be worth it on non-primary or secondary attributes, for example, speed on a center.

I mean, really, in a single season of training intense I doubt you could get either attribute to 30 (obviously depending on where they start). Which means you've wasted at least 8 leveling bonuses.

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Well, personally I would say train the stats to somewhere around 23- it depends on the attributes and how fast they level up. For example, my C has 15.8 Agility. I am training agility on intense, and I have no SP. I figured that every 5 days for the 6 I need, it goes up by 1. I also only expect to level up 4-5 more times. So I hold on to all that SP, and then at the end of the season pour it all in at once.
 
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Originally posted by CoachB05
Well, personally I would say train the stats to somewhere around 23- it depends on the attributes and how fast they level up. For example, my C has 15.8 Agility. I am training agility on intense, and I have no SP. I figured that every 5 days for the 6 I need, it goes up by 1. I also only expect to level up 4-5 more times. So I hold on to all that SP, and then at the end of the season pour it all in at once.


Agility being one of five secondary attributes for a Center means that you're not losing much level bonus (.2 SP) for each level you spend training. In this case, you're probably right, though I have not run the numbers on this specific scenario. The same thing does not hold for Str/Blk for that same center.
 
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Originally posted by TheGreatPuma
Originally posted by Mob-6

I would intense train your top two attributes to 30 and save all the skill points. Once at 30 throw them in to get those two attributes to the soft cap. Once that is done, repeat process with the next two most important attributes, rinse and repeat.


This is not worth it. It wastes far too much of your leveling bonus. This would only be worth it on non-primary or secondary attributes, for example, speed on a center.

I mean, really, in a single season of training intense I doubt you could get either attribute to 30 (obviously depending on where they start). Which means you've wasted at least 8 leveling bonuses.



8 leveling bonuses is what, 3 attribute points or 6 skill points past 48? By training from 15 to 30 that means you spend 18 skill points to get to the soft cap rather than lets take an average starting ability number, 15, which would mean you'd plug 33 skill points to go to the softcap. That means you have saved 15 skill points training to 30 and then going to the cap, with those 15 saved points you spend 6 to equal what the level bonus would have provided and you have 6 points saved. Seems like a better way of slow building to me.
 
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Originally posted by Mob-6
Originally posted by TheGreatPuma

Originally posted by Mob-6


I would intense train your top two attributes to 30 and save all the skill points. Once at 30 throw them in to get those two attributes to the soft cap. Once that is done, repeat process with the next two most important attributes, rinse and repeat.


This is not worth it. It wastes far too much of your leveling bonus. This would only be worth it on non-primary or secondary attributes, for example, speed on a center.

I mean, really, in a single season of training intense I doubt you could get either attribute to 30 (obviously depending on where they start). Which means you've wasted at least 8 leveling bonuses.



8 leveling bonuses is what, 3 attribute points or 6 skill points past 48? By training from 15 to 30 that means you spend 18 skill points to get to the soft cap rather than lets take an average starting ability number, 15, which would mean you'd plug 33 skill points to go to the softcap. That means you have saved 15 skill points training to 30 and then going to the cap, with those 15 saved points you spend 6 to equal what the level bonus would have provided and you have 6 points saved. Seems like a better way of slow building to me.


This depends on the type of player. A level bonus to a Center's primary attributes is 1 point, vs. 0.4 for an Offensive Tackle.

If you spend a whole season training Blk/Str on a Center before you cap anything you have effectively wasted roughly 11 leveling bonuses worth a total of 11 free SPs. I will run numbers on this tonight to prove it out and see which one is better.

My existing spreadsheet only covers the comparison for training on Normal, not intense.
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also remember that at a young age advanced equipment is way more useful.
 
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