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GOLee
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I feel bad for anyone who signs to the Mali Mystics. The owner is one of the rudest people that I've come across on GLB. For reference, I have 3 players available as a package deal. My players available as listed in the forum are a HB, DE, and OT. (http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1026463)

Here's the exchange:

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phillygh2054:
Guard Dogg - Level 20 OG
Nadin Maihaus - Level 20 CB
Shangang Yongzheng - Level 19 OT

All need to be Mali Mystics. My team isn't capped, but we are building to dominate. If you can, boost as soon as you sign (if you sign) with me. We would like to have a whole bunch of great players and you have 3 that I could use.
Are you interested in my team? If so, I will send contracts!
How much money does each player need and how many years?

Me: Sorry. Not interested. Guard Dogg and Nadin Maihaus are not available!

phillygh2054: My bad, so you aren't interested in bringing your OT to the Mystics...
Dang, well good luck!

Me: Package deal...

phillygh2054: Dang I can use the DE as well, but I already have 2 Level 22 RB's
Can I get the OT and DE?

Me: Dude.

phillygh2054: I get what you want, but as an owner, I am telling you what I need.
I can't sign the RB unless you want to be a straight KR/PR and ST with a few snaps as backup FB

Me: dude. stop. Someone will take them as advertised. Plain and simple.

phillygh2054: Stop being so stubborn man.
You know the HB market is a hard one.
You are going to force someone to sign him unnecessarily and its going to come back to haunt you.

Me: It is not wise to ridicule someone that you want to attract.

phillygh2054: Im just getting frustrated bro.
Players are becoming more and more hard to recruit ya know?

Me: I am an owner too. I have NEVER done anything close to what you are doing. I do not want to be associated with you. I am not interested in your team. You have terrible chemistry. You obviously have no regard for your current starters. Please do not PM me anymore.

phillygh2054: Bro, I am a way better owner then you will ever be.
You have no class nor flexibility,
Screw you, and don't PM me

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I won't PM him so I came here. Judge our teams for yourself (http://goallineblitz.com/game/compare_teams.pl?team1=3216&team2=4968). I am in a Lv21 capped league. I realize that he just took over. But seriously! How can your chemistry already be that bad even with a chemistry grace period.

I challenge you, phillygh2054 and your Mali Mystics, to a scrimmage. Put your money where your mouth is!
 
RTS
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LoL - Looks like you were the one being the ass. I only read that he was trying to recruit.. aggressively, sure, but who cares, that may be his style.

He's obviously taken over a team that another owner took off on and decided to replace all the players he could, take the chem hit in one season and then dominate in the next...
 
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He said he wasn't interested and that 2 of the 3 players, that he obviously wants to keep together, were not available. It should have stopped right there. The other guy started rooting for other players to pull away.
 
GOLee
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Originally posted by tahl
LoL - Looks like you were the one being the ass. I only read that he was trying to recruit.. aggressively, sure, but who cares, that may be his style.

He's obviously taken over a team that another owner took off on and decided to replace all the players he could, take the chem hit in one season and then dominate in the next...


Right... but chem is reset to 70 across the board. If I have to explain why it's ridiculous that his chem is in the 30's in 7 days... wait. Nevermind.
 
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Well, I didn't mean to offend you, it just looked like he was trying really hard to recruit your guy. A compliment if I've seen one. You should have been flattered. I'm just saying I think you took it to personally and I'm sure he didn't mean anything by it, but that he wanted you on his team. At any rate, I don't see it as any big deal. Not even sure it warrants a forum type of announcement. Anyway, on to the end of the season and beginning of a new one.
 
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Originally posted by tahl
Well, I didn't mean to offend you, it just looked like he was trying really hard to recruit your guy. A compliment if I've seen one. You should have been flattered. I'm just saying I think you took it to personally and I'm sure he didn't mean anything by it, but that he wanted you on his team. At any rate, I don't see it as any big deal. Not even sure it warrants a forum type of announcement. Anyway, on to the end of the season and beginning of a new one.


I really agree. Some people are a little more aggressive and don't stop right away, but I don't think he was being mean to you. The only thing I could fault him for was not taking the hint sooner, but maybe he was able to get a guy earlier by posting after a guy wasn't originally interested, I don't know. You are a very direct person and probably felt like he wasn't listening. I don't think that makes someone a bad owner. Sorry for the bad experience. I do wish people weren't trying to ruin peoples reputation though before we even meet the guy. This is a pretty close league and enjoy the other owners here.
 
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There's a difference between being an agressive recruiter and just being an ass. He was basically telling GOLee what he needed to do. "Stop being so stubborn" and "you're going to force someone to sign him" (Which is basically what phillygh was offering to do), and then told him he was a better owner and has no class.

Sorry, I just can't buy that as being a good recruiter.
 
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I missed the force someone to sign part. Maybe both these guys could of handled it different. He did only make the owner comment after he got called out as being a bad owner first.
 
GOLee
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Originally posted by robelder
I missed the force someone to sign part. Maybe both these guys could of handled it different. He did only make the owner comment after he got called out as being a bad owner first.


I just want to reiterate these points. I created a thread that was clearly labeled "Package Deal" and listed the guys that were available. He essentially went to my profile and handpicked another group (2 of which are already committed to another team). Then, he calls me stubborn when he wants something that he cannot have???

Originally posted by GOLee


Me: dude. stop. Someone will take them as advertised. Plain and simple.

phillygh2054: Stop being so stubborn man.
You know the HB market is a hard one.
You are going to force someone to sign him unnecessarily and its going to come back to haunt you.

Me: It is not wise to ridicule someone that you want to attract.

phillygh2054: Im just getting frustrated bro.
Players are becoming more and more hard to recruit ya know?

Me: I am an owner too. I have NEVER done anything close to what you are doing. I do not want to be associated with you. I am not interested in your team. You have terrible chemistry. You obviously have no regard for your current starters. Please do not PM me anymore.

phillygh2054: Bro, I am a way better owner then you will ever be.
You have no class nor flexibility,
Screw you, and don't PM me


As soon as he found out that my guys would out-level his current starters, he changed his offer and wanted the original group. I feel bad for his players because he obviously has no regard for commitment to them as starters. On top of that all, after I explained to him very plainly why I was not interested and asked that he not contact me anymore, he comes back with...let me quote it again.

Originally posted by
phillygh2054: Bro, I am a way better owner then you will ever be.
You have no class nor flexibility,
Screw you, and don't PM me


"I know you are, but what am I?" philosophy as an owner? Childish. Screw you? LMAO.

Maybe I took it personal, but he made it personal. Ad hominem attacks because you don't get what you want? Dude, EVERY owner is rejected thoroughly on a daily basis in the recruiting season. I understand that. I would NEVER ridicule someone who didn't sign, especially if I demonstrated such ignorance of the players' request.
Last edited Sep 15, 2008 11:21:56
 
robelder
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I know what your saying, I guess I'm just easier on people. I hope to see this scrimmage game happen though. Some pride on the line makes it more interesting.
 
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lol i got your package deal on the Tanks:

Ron "Hollywood" VinDeezy
Ron "Bang Bus" Hester
Major Chubby
Deion Sparxxx
Chris Chmbers
Ron "Knock out" Jones
Ron "Speedster" VinDizzle

All my boys want off the team but if it has to go on, guess we going to play it iron man style and just get the xp for this season.
 
GOLee
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Originally posted by robelder
I know what your saying, I guess I'm just easier on people. I hope to see this scrimmage game happen though. Some pride on the line makes it more interesting.


Offer sent and accepted... stay tuned.
 
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Originally posted by GOLee
Originally posted by robelder

I know what your saying, I guess I'm just easier on people. I hope to see this scrimmage game happen though. Some pride on the line makes it more interesting.


Offer sent and accepted... stay tuned.


Awesome, we need a thread for this with lots of smack talk and get all the players from both teams links to it in their private forum and get them to talk. This will be the funnest game of the year!!!
 
sonictsk
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Originally posted by GOLee
I feel bad for anyone who signs to the Mali Mystics. The owner is one of the rudest people that I've come across on GLB. For reference, I have 3 players available as a package deal. My players available as listed in the forum are a HB, DE, and OT. (http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1026463)

Here's the exchange:

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phillygh2054:
Guard Dogg - Level 20 OG
Nadin Maihaus - Level 20 CB
Shangang Yongzheng - Level 19 OT

All need to be Mali Mystics. My team isn't capped, but we are building to dominate. If you can, boost as soon as you sign (if you sign) with me. We would like to have a whole bunch of great players and you have 3 that I could use.
Are you interested in my team? If so, I will send contracts!
How much money does each player need and how many years?

Me: Sorry. Not interested. Guard Dogg and Nadin Maihaus are not available!

phillygh2054: My bad, so you aren't interested in bringing your OT to the Mystics...
Dang, well good luck!

Me: Package deal...

phillygh2054: Dang I can use the DE as well, but I already have 2 Level 22 RB's
Can I get the OT and DE?

Me: Dude.

phillygh2054: I get what you want, but as an owner, I am telling you what I need.
I can't sign the RB unless you want to be a straight KR/PR and ST with a few snaps as backup FB

Me: dude. stop. Someone will take them as advertised. Plain and simple.

phillygh2054: Stop being so stubborn man.
You know the HB market is a hard one.
You are going to force someone to sign him unnecessarily and its going to come back to haunt you.

Me: It is not wise to ridicule someone that you want to attract.

phillygh2054: Im just getting frustrated bro.
Players are becoming more and more hard to recruit ya know?

Me: I am an owner too. I have NEVER done anything close to what you are doing. I do not want to be associated with you. I am not interested in your team. You have terrible chemistry. You obviously have no regard for your current starters. Please do not PM me anymore.

phillygh2054: Bro, I am a way better owner then you will ever be.
You have no class nor flexibility,
Screw you, and don't PM me

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I won't PM him so I came here. Judge our teams for yourself (http://goallineblitz.com/game/compare_teams.pl?team1=3216&team2=4968). I am in a Lv21 capped league. I realize that he just took over. But seriously! How can your chemistry already be that bad even with a chemistry grace period.

I challenge you, phillygh2054 and your Mali Mystics, to a scrimmage. Put your money where your mouth is!


At least you got a chance to recruit!
 
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Not what happened, but I got a good laugh out of it

Its ok, he will be banned for posting PM's without asking me first.

He left out half of the parts where he was being a complete ass, anything to make himself look good.

But I accepted his little "challenge".

Also, my Chem is only bad because of all the moves I have had to make in order to get players.

Its hard taking a gutted team and doing what I did to it in only 7 days
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