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JAY25M2396
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Ok can we get off the subject of soldiers, please. The general idea of someone enlisting is to defend the rights of Americans. We've already established that there were ulterior motives for Iraq. Afghanistan, yes it was retaliation for 9/11. Iraq, even though I agreed with taking Saddam out of power because he was a terrorist to his own people and I STRONGLY believe he helped finance Bin Laden and his group, there is no physical evidence he had anything to do with it, so it's just a belief.

The direction this is going is getting out of hand. I will say it again, for the sake of those of us who have served, and those who are still serving, please let this subject drop. There is no relevance to the topic anymore.

Mikebones, I understand how you feel, believe me, I served 2 times in Iraq, but there is no relevance to the topic by arguing over it. People have the right to their own opinions on the subject, but to argue with them over their opinions is not going to get anywhere. If you can provide facts and links to where people can find them fine, but do it through private messages. Not in the forum.

As for the Patriot Act. I think they went too far with that one. Yes I agree, find terrorist cells inside the US is a good thing, but to give the Government the right to tap anyone and everyone is wrong. That is too much power and it will be abused.

Please let this subject go.

Thank you.
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Done.... I apologize...
 
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Please remember when you start spouting off about protecting our freedom and such that this is not a US only site. There are plenty of us that aren't from America, and considering this is the SE Asian league, probably the highest probability that they will have relatives who have experience of being invaded by the US (Vietnam) or have far more in common with the people in the Middle East (helluva lot of Muslims in SE Asia too).

A persons viewpoint tends to depend largely on the pot luck of their birth - trying to force gratitude on an unknown audience is folly at best, and distracts from the business at hand which is that Southern Wastes are going to whoop Phuket just like we did last year!

This whole thread actually makes me miss those Surabaya blowhards and their trash talk
 
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Originally posted by lukeforbes
Originally posted by MushMouthMike

Originally posted by ICRockets


Originally posted by MIKEBONES



Originally posted by ICRockets




Also, I laugh at how stupid some of you are acting about America. Kmart is pretty much the only person here who has it right.

Nobody is over their fighting for our FREEDOM. Especially not in Iraq, where there was NO correllation to 9/11. NONE. NADA. ZIP.


OK HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE OVER THERE FIGHTING FOR YOUR FUCKING LIFE? IS THAT NOT A FREEDOM? HOW ABOUT THE FREEDOM TO WALK DOWN THE STREET WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT GETTING BLOWN UP BY AN IED OR GETTING SHOT AT BY TERRORISTS? HOW ABOUT YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH? OR YOUR RIGHTS AS AN AMERICAN?

AND JUST SO YOU GUYS DONT THINK IM JUST SOME 16YO FUCKSTICK TALKING OUT MY ASS I AM 26 AND TRAINING FOR MY 2ND DEPLOYMENT TO IRAQ WHICH I LEAVE IN SEPTEMBER AND YES THAT IS A PIC OF A ROADSIDE BOMB AFTER LEAVING BIAP IN BAGHDAD THAT I TOOK WHEN IT BLEW UP

AS FOR PHUKET MIGHT AS WELL JUST LEAVE THE SITUATION ALONE ITS DOING NO GOOD TALKING OR COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. LETS JUST ALL TRY TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEM WE KNOW THEY ARE STACKED AND IT WILL FEEL THAT MUCH BETTER WHEN WE BEAT THEM.

AND YES POLOR WE DID GET SCREWED WE BEAT YOU IN THE REGULAR SEASON AND WE NEVER HAD SO MANY TURNOVERS (EVEN LIKE 3 GAMES COMBINED) NOT TO MENTION MY TEAM HAD 100 CHEMISTRY IN ALL 3 PLACES AND YOU HAD LIKE 70 OR SOME SHIT. SO GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN HOW WE DIDNT GET SCREWED.





If you'd like to fight for my freedom, see what you can do about the Patriot Act. Thanks.




DUMB


Why is this dumb? What freedoms are being fought for? The same ones that are being oppressed by the Act?


If you really care to discuss this feel free to PM me. This is not the place. Short and sweet - yes it is being abused. Is it necessary? Yes. Am I for it. ABSOLUTELY.

As I said if you want to have a civil discussion, as it is at this point, feel free to PM me
 
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