The cost of Defensive Line just went up at the start of this season.
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vipermaw82
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Originally posted by agerm73
Atlbruce this is a warning. No personal attacks or you will suffer a mini-ban.
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Originally posted by atlbruce
The real question being: Is TyDavis315 the biggest crybaby this game has ever seen? I can't say, because I haven't been here since Season 2, but he's the whiniest little beeyotch that I've seen here.
Must not have been around when GE was trying to pioneer zone into the modern age
Can say I’m bitching all I want, but many of the complaints/suggestions I’ve made over the years have been addressed in sim at some point. If I’m whiny & you don’t like my suggestions, cool.
But don’t act like they aren’t decent conversation starters when you put ego aside
The real question being: Is TyDavis315 the biggest crybaby this game has ever seen? I can't say, because I haven't been here since Season 2, but he's the whiniest little beeyotch that I've seen here.
Must not have been around when GE was trying to pioneer zone into the modern age
Can say I’m bitching all I want, but many of the complaints/suggestions I’ve made over the years have been addressed in sim at some point. If I’m whiny & you don’t like my suggestions, cool.
But don’t act like they aren’t decent conversation starters when you put ego aside
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The problem with DLines is that 5-2 TV cheese is still a thing. With screens nerfed, expect more of what we saw the previous seasons. 3 and 4-man fronts aren't a problem for good Olines
Originally posted by dredgar
The cost of Defensive Line just went up at the start of this season.
Actually it went down, DEs went form 100 to 50 flex.
Originally posted by dredgar
The cost of Defensive Line just went up at the start of this season.
Actually it went down, DEs went form 100 to 50 flex.
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Originally posted by BoDiddley
The problem with DLines is that 5-2 TV cheese is still a thing. With screens nerfed, expect more of what we saw the previous seasons. 3 and 4-man fronts aren't a problem for good Olines
This. Definitely still a problem, TV lines still a problem in general
The problem with DLines is that 5-2 TV cheese is still a thing. With screens nerfed, expect more of what we saw the previous seasons. 3 and 4-man fronts aren't a problem for good Olines
This. Definitely still a problem, TV lines still a problem in general
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Originally posted by HayRow
This. Definitely still a problem, TV lines still a problem in general
No one is even running a Blitz team at the moment, how are they still a problem?
5-2 didn't get addressed outside of it costing a bit more, which is a decent start at least.
But more than that it hasn't been addressed how pass rush is meant to be viable outside of sending 6. As long as that's the only way to generate consistent pressure, 5-2 will always be meta.
This. Definitely still a problem, TV lines still a problem in general
No one is even running a Blitz team at the moment, how are they still a problem?
5-2 didn't get addressed outside of it costing a bit more, which is a decent start at least.
But more than that it hasn't been addressed how pass rush is meant to be viable outside of sending 6. As long as that's the only way to generate consistent pressure, 5-2 will always be meta.
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Originally posted by BoDiddley
Actually it went down, DEs went form 100 to 50 flex.
I dont care abou the star alotment part, DT now cost more salary wise, so your DL in general cost more than it used to is what I was pointing at. Ty was saying raise their salary cost. I was pointing out they just did that.
Actually it went down, DEs went form 100 to 50 flex.
I dont care abou the star alotment part, DT now cost more salary wise, so your DL in general cost more than it used to is what I was pointing at. Ty was saying raise their salary cost. I was pointing out they just did that.
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Originally posted by ellix
No one is even running a Blitz team at the moment, how are they still a problem?
5-2 didn't get addressed outside of it costing a bit more, which is a decent start at least.
But more than that it hasn't been addressed how pass rush is meant to be viable outside of sending 6. As long as that's the only way to generate consistent pressure, 5-2 will always be meta.
It's not a sending 6 thing. the 5-2man front with TV cheese is still a sledgehammer to any offense it faces. It did have a weakness against WR screens, but that's gone now, so back to square one.
Raising DL costs won't do anything though. 5-2 defenses are fairly cheap because like you don't need any depth. Buffing ABS would be nice, and actually makes more sense than anything. Then it's up to agents to decide if they want to invest in pass block power which is costly.
No one is even running a Blitz team at the moment, how are they still a problem?
5-2 didn't get addressed outside of it costing a bit more, which is a decent start at least.
But more than that it hasn't been addressed how pass rush is meant to be viable outside of sending 6. As long as that's the only way to generate consistent pressure, 5-2 will always be meta.
It's not a sending 6 thing. the 5-2man front with TV cheese is still a sledgehammer to any offense it faces. It did have a weakness against WR screens, but that's gone now, so back to square one.
Raising DL costs won't do anything though. 5-2 defenses are fairly cheap because like you don't need any depth. Buffing ABS would be nice, and actually makes more sense than anything. Then it's up to agents to decide if they want to invest in pass block power which is costly.
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Originally posted by dredgar
I dont care abou the star alotment part, DT now cost more salary wise, so your DL in general cost more than it used to is what I was pointing at. Ty was saying raise their salary cost. I was pointing out they just did that.
Ah I see what you mean. Yeh DT's are more a cap hit now, and I would say that hurt balanced defenses more than anyone. Every cap increase will penalize balanced offenses or defenses more than specialized ones.
I dont care abou the star alotment part, DT now cost more salary wise, so your DL in general cost more than it used to is what I was pointing at. Ty was saying raise their salary cost. I was pointing out they just did that.
Ah I see what you mean. Yeh DT's are more a cap hit now, and I would say that hurt balanced defenses more than anyone. Every cap increase will penalize balanced offenses or defenses more than specialized ones.
vipermaw82
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Originally posted by BoDiddley
Ah I see what you mean. Yeh DT's are more a cap hit now, and I would say that hurt balanced defenses more than anyone. Every cap increase will penalize balanced offenses or defenses more than specialized ones.
Unless they increased the cost of the specialist abilities?
Ah I see what you mean. Yeh DT's are more a cap hit now, and I would say that hurt balanced defenses more than anyone. Every cap increase will penalize balanced offenses or defenses more than specialized ones.
Unless they increased the cost of the specialist abilities?
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Originally posted by dredgar
I dont care abou the star alotment part, DT now cost more salary wise, so your DL in general cost more than it used to is what I was pointing at. Ty was saying raise their salary cost. I was pointing out they just did that.
Not what I was saying at all; tired of being misquoted on this game
Continue the conversation on SP costs please.
I dont care abou the star alotment part, DT now cost more salary wise, so your DL in general cost more than it used to is what I was pointing at. Ty was saying raise their salary cost. I was pointing out they just did that.
Not what I was saying at all; tired of being misquoted on this game
Continue the conversation on SP costs please.
BoDiddley
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Originally posted by vipermaw82
Unless they increased the cost of the specialist abilities?
Oh I meant specialize teams, like all-run/all-pass on offense, or all one formation defenses. Those teams are cheaper to make since they don't require as much depth as a balanced squad.
Unless they increased the cost of the specialist abilities?
Oh I meant specialize teams, like all-run/all-pass on offense, or all one formation defenses. Those teams are cheaper to make since they don't require as much depth as a balanced squad.
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Originally posted by BoDiddley
Oh I meant specialize teams, like all-run/all-pass on offense, or all one formation defenses. Those teams are cheaper to make since they don't require as much depth as a balanced squad.
The only way to disincentivize specialist defenses is to make LBs somehow noticeably worse at pass defense than DBs.
Maybe if Cov Tech for them cost quite a bit more?
But as Xars has mentioned in the past, with LBs being 150 pt players, there is direct incentive to making sure LBs are great players.
Oh I meant specialize teams, like all-run/all-pass on offense, or all one formation defenses. Those teams are cheaper to make since they don't require as much depth as a balanced squad.
The only way to disincentivize specialist defenses is to make LBs somehow noticeably worse at pass defense than DBs.
Maybe if Cov Tech for them cost quite a bit more?
But as Xars has mentioned in the past, with LBs being 150 pt players, there is direct incentive to making sure LBs are great players.
dredgar
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Originally posted by TyDavis315
Not what I was saying at all; tired of being misquoted on this game
Continue the conversation on SP costs please.
You weren't misquoted as you didn't actually give any type of explanation. You just said to make them cost more, which could be multiple different aspects. Be specific on which think you want to raise the cost of, that makes things much easier to explain and talk about then.
Not what I was saying at all; tired of being misquoted on this game
Continue the conversation on SP costs please.
You weren't misquoted as you didn't actually give any type of explanation. You just said to make them cost more, which could be multiple different aspects. Be specific on which think you want to raise the cost of, that makes things much easier to explain and talk about then.
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