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Suggested new mechanic for team owners to combat inactives leading to roster holes and chemistry hits.

Allow owners to claim inactive players on their roster as their own even if it puts them over their S* count.

Xars chemistry notes and my reply copied and pasted below from the SA thread.


Originally posted by Xars
Effectively, not absolutely.

If a Power Back has Gold Power Through and the Defenders don't have Gold Monster Hit/ Brick Wall/ Death Grip (etc.), who has the RELATIVE advantage?

Your customers hate the Chem Bonus because it hurts teams and players that stick around when someone quits. Replacing that player with a new player that starts at 50 Chem (and not the 100 Chem the previous player had) causes a RELATIVE decrease in the team effectiveness.

It penalizes paying customers who stick it out because some other paying customer no longer wants to be a paying customer.

Hence we all want it gone. But you guys keep saying it's a NGTH item.

Over the past 7-8 years, the number of customers you've lost over this mechanic isn't trivial and yet, in this one area, you really refuse to listen to your customers.

We're grateful when you do (new plays, new features) but removing this feature that is bad in a PVP game is a sticking point. And it's why Team Owners have left and given up over the years because they could never successfully reload when someone bailed on them.



Bad enough finding any replacement if you as an owner did not fill the whole team or build replacement players to stuff on CPU teams which then get lended out to other teams and end up sticking them with a replacement issue.

Then multiple teams are dealing with a Chem hit along with the possibility of not filling the roster with agent owned players and/or taking on a poor build which does not fit the team just to have a warm body on the roster. On top of all of that cost of ownership, we pay an extra 500 flex to own a team.

Owners take a big hit in this game for sure. Not sure what all of the answers to the owner problem are, but there are multiple woes that occur when owning a team especially with a diverse group of agents which I always try to have with BSB. I also build the backup players and anticipate losing agents. But it is impossible to know which agents will go inactive over the course of a run.

Perhaps owners should have the ability to "claim" players when agents go inactive EVEN if they are S* players and it would put owners over the cap on S* slots. Could still have owners sink flex in SP, AP, and cap boosts for future seasons without dealing with the lack of free agents available or builds that are not palatable to how the team is constructed.

This simple mechanic would allow owners to take on more inexperienced agents with less concern that they will just go missing a couple of months later and well before even getting to vet ball. Also should allow more exposure to inexperienced agents to team building concepts which would allow them to compete at a greater level against other "quality" teams sooner.

Use a trade deadline to try and stop teams from amalgamating before playoffs, which is what this was done to try and stop in the first place iirc. After the deadline only D-league teams can sign players until the next year.

I like the idea of claiming inactives, but I would want a long grace period before you can do it. Like maybe inactive for a month. It would be very demoralizing to leave for a couple weeks, maybe you got hospitalized or something, and then have your players stolen.

There's zero chance this happens.

claiming inactives is not a good idea actually, but making chem easier to gain and installing a trade deadline would seem like a good way to help with people going inactive and not punishing owners who have it happen to them, or at least not punishing them as hard.

Originally posted by Raid
claiming inactives is not a good idea actually, but making chem easier to gain and installing a trade deadline would seem like a good way to help with people going inactive and not punishing owners who have it happen to them, or at least not punishing them as hard.

The chemistry penalties are way excessive in this game. It takes about 25 games to get to 100 from 50. O_o

Originally posted by Raid
claiming inactives is not a good idea actually, but making chem easier to gain and installing a trade deadline would seem like a good way to help with people going inactive and not punishing owners who have it happen to them, or at least not punishing them as hard.

I agree with what you said here. However, having the ability to replace an inactive without chemistry penalty and actually having a free agent who fits the position is another. Then for the unlikely scenario where a free agent is out there to fill your newly acquired roster hole, the build is likely not great or it is a non-booster or whatever else.

Originally posted by Detroit Leos
I agree with what you said here. However, having the ability to replace an inactive without chemistry penalty and actually having a free agent who fits the position is another. Then for the unlikely scenario where a free agent is out there to fill your newly acquired roster hole, the build is likely not great or it is a non-booster or whatever else.



That's just a reality of the game though, if you started letting people claim inactives there'd never be a spot to fill, so free agency would cease to exist as everyone would want to maintain that advantage.

We can take out the parts that hurt the most without causing a collapse of the whole thing. It should be easier to sign new players in the offseason and early in seasons without as much issue.

We need to open market to give players a chance to get involved with these long standing teams.