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Oofty
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At what point does an OT or OG shift from using Run Block Awareness to using Lead Block Awareness? How about for FBs? Do FBs ever use plain old Run Block Awareness if they're anywhere near the ball carrier?

Anecdotally, because my DEs have tended to get a ton of TFLs despite being below-average Break Run Block (but having above-average pursuit), I've always just figured LBA must be pretty much the "anti-Pursuit" on outside runs where the o-line pulls.

Any takes on this?
 
atlbruce
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The general take is that RBA is what happens inside the tackle box, and LBA is what happens outside of it. I've always designed my FBs accordingly, depending on the HB, and it seems to work.
 
Cybertron
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Originally posted by Oofty
At what point does an OT or OG shift from using Run Block Awareness to using Lead Block Awareness?


This is one of the ancient riddles of the universe. Mankind has asked this question since the dawn of GLB2. So many questions, so few truthful answers. Does one truly ever shift though? And what constitutes a lead blocking action? Ahhhh....the ancient mysteries are fun to ponder.
 
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Corndog has talked about this in the past. It boils down to what the guy is doing on the play design.

It's RBA if the guy is just blocking the nearest hat in front of him. It's LBA if a guy is running to a spot and then blocking.

Pulling guards and tackles and FBs use LBA. Centers never pull which is why they don't have LBA as a skill.

LBA will help a blocker react to a defender while he's getting to his designated spot.

It's a little unclear what happens once he reaches his spot.

My theory is that LBA switches to RBA after he gets into blocking someone or gets to his designated spot.
Edited by darkwingaa on Mar 2, 2021 07:58:07
 
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Originally posted by atlbruce
The general take is that RBA is what happens inside the tackle box, and LBA is what happens outside of it. I've always designed my FBs accordingly, depending on the HB, and it seems to work.


How do you explain run blocking on WRs? They are always outside the box.
 
BoDiddley
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You have to look at the play pathing. Same seems to apply on screens too

Curved blocking = LBA

Straight blocking = RBA
 
darkwingaa
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Originally posted by Cybertron
How do you explain run blocking on WRs? They are always outside the box.


It's not really inside the box/outside the box. It's whether the play design has the guy running to a spot or not.

Pulling OGs and OTs typically run outside the box on their pulling plays, so it's a decent rule of thumb to say outside the box is LBA.

But it's more precise to look at the play design and see what the guy is doing. The FB is using LBA while he's running to his spot even on blasts (A gap) and slams (B gap), which are inside the box.

WRs usually block the guy in front of them, so they usually use RBA. WRs may briefly use LBA on certain screens, which is a hidden stat for WRs.
Edited by darkwingaa on Mar 2, 2021 09:31:38
Edited by darkwingaa on Mar 2, 2021 09:30:59
Edited by darkwingaa on Mar 2, 2021 09:28:16
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Wingaa's spot on about this - though, I think the WR screens just default to RBA for ease.

As for the end of the 'pull' segment - I'm not sure if it switches back or not, probably not though by what I've seen and general gut feeling.

Would have to test it on a HB or FB with a lot of RBA and no LBA to be sure, see if they still wander off out of bounds with a high RBA.
Edited by Raid on Mar 3, 2021 13:15:05
Edited by Raid on Mar 3, 2021 13:14:48
 


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