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ThePh33P
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in 20 other games these plays have NEVER been called in these situations

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/668997/1172092
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/668997/1172109
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/668997/1172779
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/668997/1171790
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/668997/1172079
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/668997/1171987

This play has never been called beyond 5 yards before today with my tactics

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/668997/1173151
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/668997/1173193

and this play has never been called on 1st or 2nd down.

I checked my tactics and my tags repeatedly and there is ZERO probability that these calls should have been made.

Basically just under 10% of my defensive play calls were impossible.

I've also looked through the previous 20 games with this tactic and playbook and not once has this happened in any of the official games nor has it happened in any scrimmage. It also did not happen in a game yesterday with the same playbook against the Whos. so what happened today and what makes this game different? No Clue, theres a couple scenarios where it makes sense.

Scenario 1: Completely Random server side bug. Possible with the consistency of this particular game probably not.(after testing this is most likely)

Scenario 2: _OSIRIS_ has an exploit(intentional/unintentional). Possible and with EXACTLY how my tactics were changed I'm somewhat confident i can reproduce it. (After testing this is unlikely)

Scenario 3: I've completely overlooked something obvious

Scenario 3 is clearly the most likely and the one i hope it is. But I've got 8 scrims a day to test my hypothesis on this bug so we'll see. Also IF i do figure out how this works i wont be publishing it here
Edited by ThePh33P on Nov 22, 2019 14:03:58
Edited by ThePh33P on Nov 22, 2019 13:56:11
Edited by ThePh33P on Nov 22, 2019 13:55:27
 
ThePh33P
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welp in my first test I've crashed the game so I've effectively proven you can influence games stability atleast lol
 
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Has anyone else noticed their plays being off in games not just against the Who's but any teams? I would really recommend everyone watch your games today and see if anything is off specifically with the Short Inside Run tags and settings. it appears that during some 2TE set its occasionally shifting all of your tactics one cell right and the right most tactic to become the left most tactic. so for pass long its turning into short inside run which could be detrimental. So far this has affected 5-2 man base and quarters tiger house blitz. I am able to reproduce those missed play calls in scrimmages now against any team. Its very very unlikely that this was an exploit unless playing whosville messes up your tags and tactics for a couple days lol.
Edited by ThePh33P on Nov 22, 2019 14:09:48
Edited by ThePh33P on Nov 22, 2019 14:02:46
 
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Also in my testing I've locked up three scrimmage games sooooo.... @corndogI promise I'll stop breaking your game
 
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Can’t be scenario 2, I’m not that smart.

Impossible to tell without being able to see your playbook/tactics. Are you sure you didn’t change anything at all like run/pass, blitz/no blitz, short/med/long? Kind of sounds like an errant blitz tag.
 
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It actually functions like my entire tactics set was shifted one section to the right with my right most defensive tactic being shifted to my left most tactic. 50+ games and never an issue with these triggers and suddenly today after playing your team despite using the same playbook and tactics from the day before. The Triggers are playing out of whack. 5-2 man base at second and long Tiger Blitz on 1st Down lol. I can link my tactics and book Im going to need to rebuild it to see if i can get it to function properly again. I'll use imgur

Edited by ThePh33P on Nov 22, 2019 17:08:37
 
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Did they work proper with the settlers and in our scrim?
 
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Worked Correctly on Day 30 with who's vs settlers
Worked Incorrectly on Day 31 *shrug*

same settings
 
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I'm just going to build a new playbook with close to the same settings maybe a little more focused and hopefully the triggers work properly.
 
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Originally posted by ThePh33P
I'm just going to build a new playbook with close to the same settings maybe a little more focused and hopefully the triggers work properly.


Good idea, I bet it fixes it. I’ve had my share of wonky defensive tactic issues. Sounds like a bug.
 
Ghanima
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pls fix those games... last time due to fixing corrupt game my playbook for 1st division game was altered and We lost to cpu team as a result. dont fix them right before next div game againts ... whoville...
 
dredgar
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You could need to look at tactics if you say blitz 100% but have three plays. At five star with no blitz and one okay at one star but is blitz it will call that blitz play almost every time. It is kinda of a flaw in its self but it’s part of it
 
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I was thinking the blitz tag too, but if he hadn’t touched his tactics then I just don’t know.

I have been going as simple as possible on defense so there are no surprises.

Medium pass: Short yardage.

Short pass: General play.

Short pass blitz: sometimes first down, third and long.

Long pass: A play I don’t want to use at all. No long pass tags in my tactics.

I found in the past using an inside run and a pass tag in the playbook page does screwy things too.
 
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Well 5-2 Man Base doesn't have a blitz tag. :/ It was my short inside run defense. Short being 4 yards or less. Only tactics that had a percentage in inside run is 4 yards or less to go. No blitz tags used. As I said it was as if my tactics had shift one cell to the right. Not having that issue with the new playbook.
 
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I mentioned to Bort!
 


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