Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Xars
This doesn't make sense - which is different than saying it's not true.

CBs generally have FAR HIGHER Man Awareness than WRs have Rec Awareness. If the CBs are failing Awareness checks while the ball is in the air and the WRs are making them, this is the cause of the problem.

What's probably happening is that the CB ISN'T making an Awareness check soon enough and somehow the WR is. That's a coding problem.

Which is why I say this doesn't make sense (but it's probably true... or something).


Yeah I agree fully. But if you lowball awareness on a CB they hardly ever defend anything. But as a WR I've seen them have no awareness on some build so didn't see much difference. But I've never seen any of them builds make it to end game either so I'm just as lost to a good reason for the poorly played throws by CBS.

Not saying this is it as I have no clue. But I'm saying that maybe the value is different for awareness between WR and CB. And maybe it's to far off and just not being caught? Maybe a test is in order lol, sorry I'm to poor to do it ATM. Rough year last year.

Either way if it's what I see happen a lot, it seems CBs don't react to a throw(underthrows are the worst imo) anything close to what WRs do. But it could be like McLovin says that the CB is playing to where the ball is heading and the WR high points it.

I just offered it as something to look at. Not that I'm sure this is what it is.

Just drop that last day off and have a grind mode style playoffs lol

I know stupid idea as some poeple might not be able to gameplay three straight days. But it would be action packed three days. Divisional, day off, ladder late season is big, Championship, last ladder game in three straight days. Again I think it would be exciting. But I'm not planning to coach any teams for at least this season. Do have a K on a newer guys team. Might try and help them a little more this year.

Doesnt cov tech keep the CB with the WR?

Originally posted by Xars
This doesn't make sense - which is different than saying it's not true.

CBs generally have FAR HIGHER Man Awareness than WRs have Rec Awareness. If the CBs are failing Awareness checks while the ball is in the air and the WRs are making them, this is the cause of the problem.

What's probably happening is that the CB ISN'T making an Awareness check soon enough and somehow the WR is. That's a coding problem.

Which is why I say this doesn't make sense (but it's probably true... or something).


I think the way it's coded goes something like this:

Man coverage: follow man (try to predict where he is moving to and cut off if he's too far under you), check after receiver sees ball to see how long cb takes to notice wr see ball, target ball/deflect if in position, go for hit if not.

Which is kinda shit, but that would explain just about all their behavior if they are 100% watching the WR til they realize the WR is moving on the ball.

Originally posted by Raid
I think the way it's coded goes something like this:

Man coverage: follow man (try to predict where he is moving to and cut off if he's too far under you), check after receiver sees ball to see how long cb takes to notice wr see ball, target ball/deflect if in position, go for hit if not.

Which is kinda shit, but that would explain just about all their behavior if they are 100% watching the WR til they realize the WR is moving on the ball.

This is what I mean by the awareness difference I think. Like low aware WR still react much sooner than CBS normally.

Yes, and i mean, CBs with +95 awr reacts like a retard,specially if the QB passes right before the cut or hook, there is no way CB sticks to the receiver. Its really frustrating.

Maybe you losers....I mean GLB Legends should run more zone?

Originally posted by McLovinCowboys
Yes, and i mean, CBs with +95 awr reacts like a retard,specially if the QB passes right before the cut or hook, there is no way CB sticks to the receiver. Its really frustrating.

Yup I've tried a lower aware CB(80) as he was balanced. With I beleive 85 deflection 80 aware he does alright. Might be 90 deflect I forget.

But like you said CB invest high in it and I'm not sure it is working right.

Think I will make a free CB to test out some lower awareness with deflection still high and cover tech a little higher than I got down to last CB. just for fun

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
Maybe you losers....I mean GLB Legends should run more zone?

Maybe you should become legendary yourself and quite your bitchin'

Always love new plays, but for S25 i would like something diferent, with more impact on the game, new SAs, more traits, or something else.

As I said, it's a problem in the code. Only way I can see to make a CB that can stop that is to have him go for only 75ish speed and sell out on 85+ quickness and a decent amount of footwork. Just completely rely on that burst to make up for the shit reaction time.

Even then it's more of a way to 'limit' such things not stop them.

But i don't think physicals are the problem, he just takes too much time to realize that the receiver changed his route, they can just increase awareness effectiveness. I think.

Oh i understood what you meant, but i don't think its enough

Originally posted by dbill
Yup I've tried a lower aware CB(80) as he was balanced. With I beleive 85 deflection 80 aware he does alright. Might be 90 deflect I forget.

But like you said CB invest high in it and I'm not sure it is working right.

Think I will make a free CB to test out some lower awareness with deflection still high and cover tech a little higher than I got down to last CB. just for fun

Reminds me of a CB on my team actually.