Just how much speed does each type of DE need? Pass Rusher? Run? Combo?
Absolut Zero
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Never had a whole lot of success with speed on run stuffing DE's. My best run one had 8 speed or whatever the minimum was. I had another pretty solid guy with 40 speed, but I don't think it added near enough to make the SP investment worth it.
Pass rusher is a different story. TV adds +10 speed, which is nice, let's you skimp a bit if you go with that (but it doesn't fire with Spin Cycle). HAHA's pass rushing DT and DE will have 45ish speed. Quickness is definitely important, can't ignore that. Especially if you want to rock the first step SA.
Combo, ugh, tough. Lower speed since you really can't afford a lot of SP to stuff. I think with combo DE's/DT's I'd just be happy if they got pressure, I'd leave sack #'s to the specialists. So 25 speed max since it'd be too hard to find the SP for higher speed.
Pass rusher is a different story. TV adds +10 speed, which is nice, let's you skimp a bit if you go with that (but it doesn't fire with Spin Cycle). HAHA's pass rushing DT and DE will have 45ish speed. Quickness is definitely important, can't ignore that. Especially if you want to rock the first step SA.
Combo, ugh, tough. Lower speed since you really can't afford a lot of SP to stuff. I think with combo DE's/DT's I'd just be happy if they got pressure, I'd leave sack #'s to the specialists. So 25 speed max since it'd be too hard to find the SP for higher speed.
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Different story here. My pass-rush DE has 76 Speed. =D
While I might do it differently next time, the higher speed is HUGE in beating QBs that run the GLB equivalent of West Coast offenses--especially when combined with TV. On plays where my silver First Step and gold TV activate, my DE has roughly 90 Speed off the line.
While I might do it differently next time, the higher speed is HUGE in beating QBs that run the GLB equivalent of West Coast offenses--especially when combined with TV. On plays where my silver First Step and gold TV activate, my DE has roughly 90 Speed off the line.
Myrik_Justiciar
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Originally posted by Absolut Zero
Never had a whole lot of success with speed on run stuffing DE's. My best run one had 8 speed or whatever the minimum was. I had another pretty solid guy with 40 speed, but I don't think it added near enough to make the SP investment worth it.
Pass rusher is a different story. TV adds +10 speed, which is nice, let's you skimp a bit if you go with that (but it doesn't fire with Spin Cycle). HAHA's pass rushing DT and DE will have 45ish speed. Quickness is definitely important, can't ignore that. Especially if you want to rock the first step SA.
Combo, ugh, tough. Lower speed since you really can't afford a lot of SP to stuff. I think with combo DE's/DT's I'd just be happy if they got pressure, I'd leave sack #'s to the specialists. So 25 speed max since it'd be too hard to find the SP for higher speed.
I went combo pass/run, with Spin Cycle pushing 70 Quick 70 Spd so I'm not sure how you laid out your build. I guess I need something to compare as to what is considered a standard build here in GLB2.
Originally posted by Ooftyman
Different story here. My pass-rush DE has 76 Speed. =D
While I might do it differently next time, the higher speed is HUGE in beating QBs that run the GLB equivalent of West Coast offenses--especially when combined with TV. On plays where my silver First Step and gold TV activate, my DE has roughly 90 Speed off the line.
I went speed hybrid with my last 2 DE's... they have near 70 speed in vet and I'm not sure if I'm happy with the result, seems like they just aren't getting the pressure I want... like 33 or so hurries and 15.5 sacks last season. Is that decent?
And would you combo TV with SC?
I've got a couple of combo DT's that work well and I'm trying to figure out how to apply it on the DE position as well... while still building a pure run DE and a pure Pass Rush DE for a typical 4-3 defense. Finally playing in Vet has made me rethink how I've built my players.
Never had a whole lot of success with speed on run stuffing DE's. My best run one had 8 speed or whatever the minimum was. I had another pretty solid guy with 40 speed, but I don't think it added near enough to make the SP investment worth it.
Pass rusher is a different story. TV adds +10 speed, which is nice, let's you skimp a bit if you go with that (but it doesn't fire with Spin Cycle). HAHA's pass rushing DT and DE will have 45ish speed. Quickness is definitely important, can't ignore that. Especially if you want to rock the first step SA.
Combo, ugh, tough. Lower speed since you really can't afford a lot of SP to stuff. I think with combo DE's/DT's I'd just be happy if they got pressure, I'd leave sack #'s to the specialists. So 25 speed max since it'd be too hard to find the SP for higher speed.
I went combo pass/run, with Spin Cycle pushing 70 Quick 70 Spd so I'm not sure how you laid out your build. I guess I need something to compare as to what is considered a standard build here in GLB2.
Originally posted by Ooftyman
Different story here. My pass-rush DE has 76 Speed. =D
While I might do it differently next time, the higher speed is HUGE in beating QBs that run the GLB equivalent of West Coast offenses--especially when combined with TV. On plays where my silver First Step and gold TV activate, my DE has roughly 90 Speed off the line.
I went speed hybrid with my last 2 DE's... they have near 70 speed in vet and I'm not sure if I'm happy with the result, seems like they just aren't getting the pressure I want... like 33 or so hurries and 15.5 sacks last season. Is that decent?
And would you combo TV with SC?
I've got a couple of combo DT's that work well and I'm trying to figure out how to apply it on the DE position as well... while still building a pure run DE and a pure Pass Rush DE for a typical 4-3 defense. Finally playing in Vet has made me rethink how I've built my players.
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