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Kayoh
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You can't get away with "I'm doing one thing out of one formation and another thing from another formation" in GLB2. Defenses are WAY too versatile and people build specialists for everything nowadays. You've got a 90+quick/sprint slot receiver? Here's my 80 sprint/quick 70 fwk 80 deflect slot only pure coverage CB to shut him the fuck down in whatever formations you decide to use him in. Youwant to use a S* power WR and do nothing but running and underneath routes out of 2TE formations? I'll just insert my 80 sprinting 80 zone cov awr LBs and rock 4-4 to clog the middle up while my 80 sprinting CB with 60+ BRB and 70+ deflecting shuts your slow motion blocking/power WR down with little to no effort. It's a gimmick.
 
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Just let him do what he wants. There's a lot of good teams in this upcoming rookie tier - it will be nice to have some cupcakes
 
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Originally posted by Kayoh
You can't get away with "I'm doing one thing out of one formation and another thing from another formation" in GLB2. Defenses are WAY too versatile and people build specialists for everything nowadays. You've got a 90+quick/sprint slot receiver? Here's my 80 sprint/quick 70 fwk 80 deflect slot only pure coverage CB to shut him the fuck down in whatever formations you decide to use him in. Youwant to use a S* power WR and do nothing but running and underneath routes out of 2TE formations? I'll just insert my 80 sprinting 80 zone cov awr LBs and rock 4-4 to clog the middle up while my 80 sprinting CB with 60+ BRB and 70+ deflecting shuts your slow motion blocking/power WR down with little to no effort. It's a gimmick.


I'll just run on you then. Or my QB will scramble for a 1st down.
 
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Hmm, maybe I should post my crazy post-reset FSM idea and have people poke holes in it.
 
Kayoh
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Originally posted by Galactic Empire
I'll just run on you then. Or my QB will scramble for a 1st down.

you're an idiot.
 
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Originally posted by Absolut Zero
Hmm, maybe I should post my crazy post-reset FSM idea and have people poke holes in it.


At least you have successful teams on your resume to back up some claims
 
Kayoh
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Originally posted by jfbueno
At least you have successful teams on your resume to back up some claims

depending on your definition of "successful", so do I. GE is the odd one out here.
 
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Originally posted by Kayoh

you're an idiot.


I'm glad you reset. Hopefully we are in the same league.
 
Kayoh
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Originally posted by Galactic Empire
I'm glad you reset. Hopefully we are in the same league.

I don't want to be in your league. I want to be in a competitive league.
 
Xars
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Originally posted by Jagat0r
Flip the Sprinting and Quickness values and you might have something.... I dont see any point in giving a WR more Quickness than Sprinting though.


All the WRs on LZ have more Quickness than Sprinting. The Shifty's are +5 and the Speedsters are +1. Even the TEs are even/more quickness.

Quickness helps the Target make the 180 degree turn to face the QB for the incoming pass, in my view. Plus acceleration off the line.

You shouldn't have a massive disparity because then you accelerate quickly to a low top speed, but Quickness can easily be justified as the highest skill value for most WRs. Even over Hands.

 
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Originally posted by Kayoh
You can't get away with "I'm doing one thing out of one formation and another thing from another formation" in GLB2. Defenses are WAY too versatile and people build specialists for everything nowadays. You've got a 90+quick/sprint slot receiver? Here's my 80 sprint/quick 70 fwk 80 deflect slot only pure coverage CB to shut him the fuck down in whatever formations you decide to use him in. Youwant to use a S* power WR and do nothing but running and underneath routes out of 2TE formations? I'll just insert my 80 sprinting 80 zone cov awr LBs and rock 4-4 to clog the middle up while my 80 sprinting CB with 60+ BRB and 70+ deflecting shuts your slow motion blocking/power WR down with little to no effort. It's a gimmick.


This.

Defense is customizable by Offensive formation.

If you are 100% Strong side runs out of 2WR and 100% Passing out of 3 WR you've just given the DC a layup. It's different if your a Pure O because then you can out build the Defense. But if you're trying any non-Pure build strategy, the moment you give the DC a pure look, he'll have the matchup edge.

The only thing Kayoh is wrong on is that the 80 sprinting/quick 70 fwk 80 deflect pure cover CB can't shut down the Slot in a Pure 3WR Passing O.

At least not Belgarion.
 
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Originally posted by Galactic Empire
Starscream (slot) will have 90+ quick and speed I think. He will run the deep routes while Beastman (S* power WR) will be 1WR and run short and underneath routes. 2WR will be run blocker. Lots of curls and quick slants for Beastman.


You better have found the exact plays you want to do this. If you're just talking off the top of your head, then this isn't going to work.

 
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Originally posted by Xars
You better have found the exact plays you want to do this. If you're just talking off the top of your head, then this isn't going to work.



You know I have a plan.
 
Kayoh
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Originally posted by Xars
This.

Defense is customizable by Offensive formation.

If you are 100% Strong side runs out of 2WR and 100% Passing out of 3 WR you've just given the DC a layup. It's different if your a Pure O because then you can out build the Defense. But if you're trying any non-Pure build strategy, the moment you give the DC a pure look, he'll have the matchup edge.

The only thing Kayoh is wrong on is that the 80 sprinting/quick 70 fwk 80 deflect pure cover CB can't shut down the Slot in a Pure 3WR Passing O.

At least not Belgarion.

Belgarion is also a S*. GE is planning on a regular slot WR with 90 quick/sprint. That dude's gonna have sub-70 in pretty much every other receiving skill, and there's no way he'll hit the 65 conditioning/76 snap reaction that supplements Belgarion's speed.
 
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Originally posted by Galactic Empire
You know I have a plan.


Experimental builds, take 3?
 
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