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InRomoWeTrust
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Originally posted by SunDevil03
I think some kind of restriction limiting it to being down big would be perfect. If you're down by a lot of points and in short yardage situations it should fire.


The sim already does. And if it's not, which is the case for some random scenarios, then those situations should be pulled together in a list to review.
Edited by InRomoWeTrust on Sep 30, 2014 09:16:56
 
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Originally posted by mrm708
because its already hard enough for the defense once you get past rookie and soph. the all running teams would be much harder to stop if they were going for it on 4th and 1 all the time.


if goal line gap fire defenses worked as they do in real life that might not be as clear cut.

I think that the issue is one with the underlying sim and the 'fix' is to limit offensive tactics - you can decide if you think that's optimal as a solution/situation or not

Maybe Mighty Brawlers will allow you go to for it on fourth down
 
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Originally posted by mrm708
because its already hard enough for the defense once you get past rookie and soph. the all running teams would be much harder to stop if they were going for it on 4th and 1 all the time.


That's a different problem. In fact, it proves it's a different problem.

Yes I agree with your statement, but I also see past the next step.

This is a change that should be made because it's a coaching decision that exists in football. It should be part of a broader change of fixing the imbalance of offense to defense so it doesn't cause an excaberation of the current meta.

Being against this as a tactics change doesn't make sense because the real issue isn't 4th down but the whole imbalance of Offense and Defense which needs to be addessed separately.

Adding this beforehand though, would make Offenses even more powerful which would in turn probably cause the O-D imbalance to get fixed faster.

This concept exists in the business world of many stocks I follow. The best way to correct an imbalance of supply-demand is to hope the situation gets worse fast. When things go bad fast, corrective action happens faster than otherwise.


 
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Cheesy part of the game. Worst option in glb1 by far.
 
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As a defense youd basically have to sell out and run MO or some crazy GL defense just to have a chance of stopping an inside running play on 4th and short. Then the smart OCs would just have some outside running plays in their 4th down tactics so as a DC you would pretty much be screwed.

I agree the sim needs work and it could eventually get to the point where this would not be incredibly unbalanced, but I really doubt making a change like this will speed up any work on the sim as a whole.

If this were implemented my team would never punt on 4th and 2 or closer, and a good deal of the time wed be breaking open outside runs against defenses geared towards stuffing the middle.
 
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