Originally posted by Xavori
I think he screwed up in the case of nerfing the run game, but I don't think that makes him a bad person or in any way shows routine bad judgement. One mistake does not an idiot make.
Is Corndog a bad person? I have no idea, he could volunteer for charities and local organizations and give blood once a week for all I know. Have I asserted he is a bad person? I don't think so. I only judge on what he has demonstrated in these threads. In terms of routine judgement, I'm just going off what I'm seeing and what I'm seeing is a whole lot of "I screwed up, I won't admit it, and I'll keep cherry picking observations I disagree with and ignoring comments / points that are legitimate that I can't tear apart" from Corndog. I'm not going to argue if that is routine or just consistency for this one action.
Originally posted by Xavori
But kicking poor Corny for one mistake isn't really going to be conducive to having a chance at getting the running game restored, nor is it at all helpful for any future discussions we might want to have with him.
Heh. That's the difference between me and you though. I'm beyond caring at this point if he fixes the run game or not, because it will not affect my long term participation. I'm out once the flex is gone, if not before, so trying to play nice and coddle his ego to get what I want has no value to me. In addition all attempts prior to reason with him have been a waste of time. He has a strong habit of ignoring everything legitimate that people say and pulling a sentence or two, sometimes even out of context to rebuke their argument. As if correcting or contesting one observation or idea nullifies all that is being said.
Just to validate my point though here is me pre-nerf trying to reason with Corndog about jumping to conclusions and the dangers of over-correction.
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5179213?page=5#48449195
Here is post nerf
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5179417?page=30#48454046
Here is couple days ago
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5179575?page=3#48461527
Corndog doesn't engage arguments, he dismisses them. Now if you want to play nice and continue to try and reason with him, that's all on you. But I can't in good conscience support a product where the people responsible can't even understand our argument, not to mention acknowledge that there is some validity to it.
Originally posted by Xavori
This is one case were I wish everyone in GLB2 knew IotB like we do.
To the rest of GLB2 peeps, there is wisdom in this. I don't try to win personality contests on internet forums. I have a habit of being insanely stubborn and dense at times. But I'm not all bad, I just tend to be impersonal about things. But don't let my actions influence your opinion of Xavori, or the rest of the crew.
I think he screwed up in the case of nerfing the run game, but I don't think that makes him a bad person or in any way shows routine bad judgement. One mistake does not an idiot make.
Is Corndog a bad person? I have no idea, he could volunteer for charities and local organizations and give blood once a week for all I know. Have I asserted he is a bad person? I don't think so. I only judge on what he has demonstrated in these threads. In terms of routine judgement, I'm just going off what I'm seeing and what I'm seeing is a whole lot of "I screwed up, I won't admit it, and I'll keep cherry picking observations I disagree with and ignoring comments / points that are legitimate that I can't tear apart" from Corndog. I'm not going to argue if that is routine or just consistency for this one action.
Originally posted by Xavori
But kicking poor Corny for one mistake isn't really going to be conducive to having a chance at getting the running game restored, nor is it at all helpful for any future discussions we might want to have with him.
Heh. That's the difference between me and you though. I'm beyond caring at this point if he fixes the run game or not, because it will not affect my long term participation. I'm out once the flex is gone, if not before, so trying to play nice and coddle his ego to get what I want has no value to me. In addition all attempts prior to reason with him have been a waste of time. He has a strong habit of ignoring everything legitimate that people say and pulling a sentence or two, sometimes even out of context to rebuke their argument. As if correcting or contesting one observation or idea nullifies all that is being said.
Just to validate my point though here is me pre-nerf trying to reason with Corndog about jumping to conclusions and the dangers of over-correction.
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5179213?page=5#48449195
Here is post nerf
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5179417?page=30#48454046
Here is couple days ago
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5179575?page=3#48461527
Corndog doesn't engage arguments, he dismisses them. Now if you want to play nice and continue to try and reason with him, that's all on you. But I can't in good conscience support a product where the people responsible can't even understand our argument, not to mention acknowledge that there is some validity to it.
Originally posted by Xavori
This is one case were I wish everyone in GLB2 knew IotB like we do.
To the rest of GLB2 peeps, there is wisdom in this. I don't try to win personality contests on internet forums. I have a habit of being insanely stubborn and dense at times. But I'm not all bad, I just tend to be impersonal about things. But don't let my actions influence your opinion of Xavori, or the rest of the crew.
Edited by IotB on Jun 2, 2014 18:39:56
