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Xars
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Originally posted by TxSteve
I think that is pretty valuable info. As a point of reference - my DE's are much closer to "balanced" than they are to run stopping - so only 2 pancakes on them (considering the seasons worth of exp you have) seems insanely low.


You know the details of your DE's, but my OT's are #4, #5 and #6 on the HOF chart for Seasoned. (I'll share specific stats if you want.)

Cronin in 13 games has 111 pancakes; reversed 5 times.
Crusan in 13 games has 108 pancakes; reversed 4 times.
Evans in 13 games has 114; reversed 12 times.

That's an average of 25.6 per game. They got 2 in the Ladder game (13 in the scrim) against TxSteve.

Since the nerf, they are generating less pancakes per game than before. OTs aren't blocking CBs that often so the defensive change to helping break blocks in open space shouldn't effect OTs that much. Yet, pancakes are down. (Must be related to the baseline run block power change from 25 to 20, dunno).

Edited by Xars on Jun 3, 2014 13:56:40
 
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Originally posted by TxSteve

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU



Ya know, that didn't actually work out so well for her, now did it?
 
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Originally posted by Xars
You know the details of your DE's, but my OT's are #4, #5 and #6 on the HOF chart for Seasoned. (I'll share specific stats if you want.)

Cronin in 13 games has 111 pancakes; reversed 5 times.
Crusan in 13 games has 108 pancakes; reversed 4 times.
Evans in 13 games has 114; reversed 12 times.

That's an average of 25.6 per game. They got 2 in the Ladder game (13 in the scrim) against TxSteve.

Since the nerf, they are generating less pancakes per game than before. OTs aren't blocking CBs that often so the defensive change to helping break blocks in open space shouldn't effect OTs that much. Yet, pancakes are down. (Must be related to the baseline run block power change from 25 to 20, dunno).



Not sure which of my DE's got pancaked by you -

but they generally have hold ground and break block in the 30-40 range
balance 25

Not sure what else could be pertinent -- but certainly not built to avoid pancakes

 
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Originally posted by Xavori
Ya know, that didn't actually work out so well for her, now did it?


Spoiler alert: there is a happy ending and it all started with her letting it go
 
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Originally posted by TxSteve
Spoiler alert: there is a happy ending and it all started with her letting it go


Spoiler alert: Her letting it go created both of the crises that had to be resolved in act 3
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Are ridiculous presets how Speedy broke 14 tackles? lol


No thats just Homages awful tackling builds which I have to make up with through gameplanning.
 
Xars
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Originally posted by TxSteve
Not sure which of my DE's got pancaked by you -

but they generally have hold ground and break block in the 30-40 range
balance 25

Not sure what else could be pertinent -- but certainly not built to avoid pancakes



Evans: Run Blk Power 55; Run Blk Tech 45; Balance 40.
Crusan: Run Blk Power 55; Run Blk Tech 45; Balance 40.
Cronin: Run Blk Tech 50; Run Blk Power 50; Balance 40.

Pre-nerf, in a game against DADDY, they had 16, 12 and 8 pancakes respectively for a total of 36. DADDY's DE's suffered 9, 9, 7, and 7 pancakes, or 32 total. (Reminder: my OTs had 2 total against TxSteve in our Ladder game.)

Dolphins had 115 pancakes, of which 36 were by OTs.

It seems like 36-32 ratio of OT to DE pancakes is high enough and logical enough to call it a good correlation.

Maybe bhall can shed some light on the Run skills of their DEs, but I can't believe that nerfing outside, edge blocking in space, should radically effect the blocking between the OT and DE.

Edited by Xars on Jun 3, 2014 14:41:52
 
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Originally posted by o The Boss x
I kinda just wanted to know by day 21 so I know whether or not to waste flex on trying to get to superstar tiers again.


Your team has won every game besides one since the changes, scrims included.

Not sure why you're trying to pull the trigger.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Your team has won every game besides one since the changes, scrims included.

Not sure why you're trying to pull the trigger.


Because that loss was to me.

Apparently my awesome radiance is so terrible to look upon that mere mortals turn away in despair
 
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Sim Stuff
- WRs will now break their runoff if they are not covered
- Pulled back the outside blocking change a bit
- Fixed reaction time to QB rushes
- Fixed some depth chart issues
- Fixed weird thing with backpedaling while being engaged in an interaction



Because surely we need to discuss this EVERYWHERE!!

Corndog - were those changes live at roll over? Or like just now?
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Your team has won every game besides one since the changes, scrims included.


We beat shit teams lol, and we lost to a team we would've never lost to pre-changes imo.

Thanks for the changes though corn, hoping its a step back in the right direction.
 
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Originally posted by o The Boss x
We beat shit teams lol, and we lost to a team we would've never lost to pre-changes imo.

Thanks for the changes though corn, hoping its a step back in the right direction.


Hoping it's not a big step.
 
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http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/68770/1680224

Really wish that wasn't private.
 
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Originally posted by o The Boss x
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/68770/1680224

Really wish that wasn't private.


Can you describe what happened?
 
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His HB eluded like 8 tackles to score a TD.
 
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