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I've been watching replays of HB Counter Sweep Left trying to figure out WTF the pulling tackle's decision making process is.

On the times it works, the tackle blocks the outside LB after pulling. That's what I'd want to happen most of the time.

However, sometimes he pulls all the way outside ignoring the LB who then has a free shot at the HB, and instead goes after a safety who is well behind the LB at the point where it looks like the OT has no choice but to figure out who to go block.

What I think is happening on the good plays is that the OT is making a successful awareness check while pulling and hence, goes after the unblocked LB that he 'sees'. And on the bad plays, he fails that awareness check and finishes following his pull path before deciding who to block by which time the LB is farther away from the OT than the safety the OT goes after.

The problem is I have no idea which awareness the game is rolling against on this play, so not sure which would provide the more immediate benefit (long term, he'll get both, but short term??)

This brings me back to my question. Is there some way to know? Do all blockers who are moving before blocking use lead block? What about the wedge in special teams...lead or run?

It would help greatly if we had a well written guide of all the skills and exactly how the sim uses them.

Dude u srsly need to start guessing and checking.

Originally posted by Xavori


It would help greatly if we had a well written guide of all the skills and exactly how the sim uses them.



Isn't that what ruined glb1?

Originally posted by Xavori

This brings me back to my question. Is there some way to know? Do all blockers who are moving before blocking use lead block? What about the wedge in special teams...lead or run?

Also why not both?

Originally posted by underdog13
Isn't that what ruined glb1?

Knowing how to play a game ruined it?

Originally posted by underdog13

Also why not both?


Both is definitely going to happen. In the short term, though, getting the right type of awareness will have much great impact on our immediate success.

Yes, knowing how ruined it. It made it so everything was slow built and nothing was put into terciary skills as they were completely unrequired.

Originally posted by Adderfist
Yes, knowing how ruined it. It made it so everything was slow built and nothing was put into terciary skills as they were completely unrequired.

That's...not good.

Games should not be about reverse engineering. I mean, sure, that's my thing so given a couple more seasons I'll have all this down, but it shouldn't be a case of the few guys who actually know the rules being able to dominate everyone else.

Could you imagine if the NFL had a secret rulebook? It'd be like NASCAR....

Originally posted by Xavori
That's...not good.

Games should not be about reverse engineering. I mean, sure, that's my thing so given a couple more seasons I'll have all this down, but it shouldn't be a case of the few guys who actually know the rules being able to dominate everyone else.

Could you imagine if the NFL had a secret rulebook? It'd be like NASCAR....

That is why it is best that nobody knows the "rules".

Originally posted by bhall43
That is why it is best that nobody knows the "rules".

You realize you just said the exact opposite of what he said, right?
He said it sucks that only the people who spend all their time reverse-engineering the game will know the rules, but that some people *will* do it, and it would be better if everyone had it.
So you said "that's why it's best nobody knows"

You're going to have to do better than "You're right, that's why you're wrong."

Originally posted by bhall43
That is why it is best that nobody knows the "rules".

Okay, let me put in a way I'm sure you'll love.

By season 5, I'll beat you every time our teams play each other simply because I'll understand how the game works better than you do. Hell, the one time our teams met in a game that really mattered my defense shut your team out. http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/16709

(and yes, I know your team is better this season cuz reasons and 7 superstars to our none and yada yada yada)

I'm that good at reverse engineering.

Is that really the standard you want for success in GLB2?

Do you really want to be forced to worship the very ground I walk on?

Originally posted by NiborRis
You realize you just said the exact opposite of what he said, right?
He said it sucks that only the people who spend all their time reverse-engineering the game will know the rules, but that some people *will* do it, and it would be better if everyone had it.
So you said "that's why it's best nobody knows"

You're going to have to do better than "You're right, that's why you're wrong."

I know exactly what he is saying and what I said. Figuring things out is the great part about the game. The more details the game shells out, the more boring everything becomes. He can spend hours, days, weeks, months, years reverse engineering this game, that is what makes people good. That is why so very few coordinators in GLB are always ahead of the game. They spend the time and do these things.

Originally posted by Xavori
Okay, let me put in a way I'm sure you'll love.

By season 5, I'll beat you every time our teams play each other simply because I'll understand how the game works better than you do. Hell, the one time our teams met in a game that really mattered my defense shut your team out. http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/16709

(and yes, I know your team is better this season cuz reasons and 7 superstars to our none and yada yada yada)

I'm that good at reverse engineering.

Is that really the standard you want for success in GLB2?

Do you really want to be forced to worship the very ground I walk on?

Your taunt is laughable because several teams shut that team out.

Originally posted by bhall43
Your taunt is laughable because several teams shut that team out.

Have you considered maybe you should fire the coaches if they have 7 superstars and get shut out?

Or how about firing the owner?

As a Cowboys fan, I can't tell you how many times I've wished I could do that...

They are just there to give you just enough confidence not to quit before vet level.

Any blocker whose path on the play is not straight ahead is using lead block awareness. This is why centers do not have lead block awareness skill. You will never see a play in the playbook where they are "pulling".

Originally posted by nortobc
Any blocker whose path on the play is not straight ahead is using lead block awareness. This is why centers do not have lead block awareness skill. You will never see a play in the playbook where they are "pulling".

Yes, but does Lead Block awareness work for the entire play, or just to the initial block? If you pancake that guy, is it still lead block awareness or now run block awareness helping you search for the next target?