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yello1
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For instance it seems to me that

2 Man Under Robber and 2 Man LB Spy both leave the HB uncovered.

And in this play at least the TE is left open (the SS is in Deep Zone, at least on the play book graphic)

Why is this?

And why isn't it noted somewhere?
 
shield.bearer
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Some Defensive coverages are better against specific plays. In both of those listed, the OLB is responsible for the HB Man to Man. If his Man Coverage Awareness isn't very high, he will have trouble recognizing pass quickly, which will leave the HB. open.

In other words, fix your builds.
 
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Interesting.

How do you know this?

And the LBs in the two instances had Man Awareness of 20 and 25, is that so low for an LB at this juncture?
Edited by yello1 on Dec 28, 2013 07:01:48
 
shield.bearer
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I read the info available and the descriptions of the skills.

And "this juncture" has no bearing on gameplay. 20 and 25 are low Man Awareness and the LBs will be slow to react often, leaving someone open.
 
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Originally posted by shield.bearer
I read the info available and the descriptions of the skills.

And "this juncture" has no bearing on gameplay. 20 and 25 are low Man Awareness and the LBs will be slow to react often, leaving someone open.


You're wrong homie. There are bugged coverage settings where the guy will take a different receiver and leave some wide open. Coverage is borked on many formations.
 
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The plays that read the right number of WR's should be covering everyone unless the play legitimately shows more players blitzing than they can cover players. If that isn't right it could very well be a bug and should be reported in the bugs thread. I tried and check as many as I could but I didn't check every single play and I was doing it really quick so I may have missed a couple thinking there was coverage but it was just a zone.
 
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Originally posted by Homage
You're wrong homie. There are bugged coverage settings where the guy will take a different receiver and leave some wide open. Coverage is borked on many formations.


I believe there are bugs. I also believe a low man awareness LB is going to be slow to pick up his back because that is what the ability says.
 
yello1
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Originally posted by shield.bearer
I believe there are bugs. I also believe a low man awareness LB is going to be slow to pick up his back because that is what the ability says.


Man Awareness actually does not say* that though I can see how you misread it.

It says how he reacts to incoming passes, not receivers.

And rushing plays, which would to me mean how quickly he drops man cover to pursue the rusher.

It also says how well he responds to fake out moves, which is Juke, Head Fake, not simply covering his man.

I think that covering your man assignment is the default thing to do. Not sure there is a skill for that.

Unless you saw something else?


* = Above is from reading the hover pop up.

Edited by yello1 on Dec 29, 2013 00:03:21
 
tpaterniti
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The answer to your original question is yes.
 
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Originally posted by Homage
You're wrong homie. There are bugged coverage settings where the guy will take a different receiver and leave some wide open. Coverage is borked on many formations.


This - The plays the OP mentioned do leave people uncovered. Man Awareness should have nothing to do with whether the LB will cover a player, only how well he covers him.
 
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It should have to do with how quickly he recognizes Pass/Run which will have a lot to do with a HB or TE being "left open" because the LB didn't get there fast enough to "cover him".

You know, like football...
 
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Originally posted by dfwai
It should have to do with how quickly he recognizes Pass/Run which will have a lot to do with a HB or TE being "left open" because the LB didn't get there fast enough to "cover him".

You know, like football...


You don't understand what we're referencing...

We're referring to the fact that the LB chooses to cover someone else instead of the HB... leaving them wide open because the play call is borked and forces the LB to double cover someone. That has nothing to do with Man Awareness.
 


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