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PING72
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I'm guessing it's something with the pathing on the play, but it's very chunky and bad. The QB hiccups every time on these plays:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1689895&pbp_id=6770470
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1689895&pbp_id=6771212
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1689895&pbp_id=6769620
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1689894&pbp_id=6251072

Different QB, different team:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1689983&pbp_id=7286853
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1689983&pbp_id=7285804
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1689983&pbp_id=7285782

Seems to happen every time.
Edited by Pwned IRL on Jun 26, 2011 10:00:14 (title edit)
Edited by IdRatherFlyFish on Jun 20, 2011 09:46:11 (2nd)
Edited by TruthHammer on Jun 19, 2011 21:06:51 (Added File #)
Edited by TruthHammer on Jun 19, 2011 21:03:15 (Not likely a bug)
 
Androth
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662945&pbp_id=4629002
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662945&pbp_id=4635538
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662944&pbp_id=4088250
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662944&pbp_id=4087960

He does seem to sort of hit a wall when he backs up, but it looks a lot less buggy on players that have agility.
 
Farlig
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You are asking a low level QB that is probably speed based to have the agility & vision also to make these plays look smooth.

Level 72 QB:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662945&pbp_id=4629002
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662945&pbp_id=4635538
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662942&pbp_id=3019787

There is a SLIGHT change of direction slow down at the back of the drop just as the QB makes his turn to begin his arc up field. Probably going to want to find better examples (i.e. with older dots) if you want this to have a chance
 
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Originally posted by Androth
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662945&pbp_id=4629002
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662945&pbp_id=4635538
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662944&pbp_id=4088250
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662944&pbp_id=4087960

He does seem to sort of hit a wall when he backs up, but it looks a lot less buggy on players that have agility.


Of all the possible teams to pick, we pick the same QB.
 
Androth
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We played you earlier this season and I remembered scouting it
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662942&pbp_id=3019787

The bug is the SS self gratifying on this play.
 
PING72
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Originally posted by Farlig
You are asking a low level QB that is probably speed based to have the agility & vision also to make these plays look smooth.

Level 72 QB:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662945&pbp_id=4629002
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662945&pbp_id=4635538
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1662942&pbp_id=3019787

There is a SLIGHT change of direction slow down at the back of the drop just as the QB makes his turn to begin his arc up field. Probably going to want to find better examples (i.e. with older dots) if you want this to have a chance


Yeah, even on this higher level player there is a hiccup, it's just not as pronounced. It seems there is a problem with the forced pathing of this play.
 
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Ping,

As I look at these plays, the QB behaves the same in all of them. Lower level dots do make this play look a bit chunky, but at higher levels it seems to be ok to me.

If you think the pathing should be adjusted,. maybe this is a good candidate for a suggestion?

Does not seem like a bug to me.

Fish
 
TruthHammer
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Based on the replays of the older dots with agility, I'm going to say this is not likely a bug. The QB's path could probably stand to be smoothed out a bit, but it's currently working as it's designed.
 
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There have been no more examples given here to further suggest there is a serious issue here.

The QB in the original post is clearly not agile enough to make the inside cut on this play when there is no option to go outside. A faster QB makes it out to the outside quicker before the defense can react, allowing the QB to have the outside as an option. This is seen with the links provided with the higher level higher agility QB's.

This same behavior is evident on plenty of other QB outside rushes where the QB's aren't fast/agile enough to get to the outside before the defense is able to contain the play.

I also do not think this is a BUG.

Giving this a third verification, NOT LIKELY A BUG, and closing.

 
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