Warrior General Games

Again I was forced to this thread by a mod saying mine duplicated this. The following plays should show this is a different issue altogether. Please open my thread back up or allow me to post this info in a new. There addition here is off topic and inappropriate but I have put them here at GLBs instruction.

This is the most clear example. Watch frame by frame please. You miss so much when looking at full speed. ROT should have went straight for CB, as CB was line up right no top of the DE. Instead stands there for 12- 14 ticks before he moves towards a defender. Also notice in most of these replays there is a CB lined up over the DE instead of the LOLB.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9250883

Here's some more. Again please watch frame by frame or you will miss how long the ROT actually takes to react to anything.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9248354
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9250798
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9252290
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9254600

On these ones the the ROTdoes block the CB, but the CB has to engage him. He stands there for a dozen or so ticks and won't cross the LOS to engage the CB. It seems like the sim won't allow him to block the CB until the handoff occurs. At that point the the CB begins to pursue the HB and the ROT will try to block him if he comes towards him only.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9252857
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9254578
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9255399
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9255897

This one may or may ot be an example. It seems to be a little different interaction because the run is strong side towards tho ROT this time. BU this behavior is a little odd.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9255621

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These replays below only apply to OP not my separate issue that has been erroneously forced into this forum.

Here's some more but they resemble the problem described in this post. Oddly enough it's likely not a bug and I just stumbled across it looking for examples of my issue. Didn't even notice yesterday:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9251054
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9253147
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9253562
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9253629
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9255099
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9255859

All the above examples whether be about my separate issue or about the OPer's issue in this thread are from one game. Out of 67 offensive plays for our team I found 9 examples of my problem which I believe is related to the way the D had the CB position nearly on top of the LDE. I found 6 examples of the OPer proposed bug coincidentally. Just from looking more examples of my own problem.

Originally posted by Djmr
Can I see another example where the ROT definitely double-teams the RDE with the TE, like the OP? The other examples dont show the same behaviour (the ROT goes for the OLB in those instances), and the ROT does just like Asdlfef says on those plays.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1214810&pbp_id=9251054

Also OPer provided 2 examples of what your looking for here they are.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1229714&pbp_id=9344976
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1229714&pbp_id=9346572

Originally posted by Asdlfef
I do not believe this is a bug, it appears that the TE picks up the DE, then the ROT either sits back and waits for a defender to come at him, or blocks the ROT after the TE gets reverse pancaked.

Not to be argumentative, but these are all or predominantly run plays. No Olineman should sit back and wait for a block on a run play. If it was a pass that would make sense. But on a run play all blockers should burst off the line and move in a general forward or lateral direction to find a blocker. THey really shouldn't ever sit and wait for someone to come to them on a run block. Especially in the instance of the OPer's initial example where the run was coming to the hole just inside the ROT. And in that instance he just sat there while the LOLB blitzed in and tackled the RB at the line.

" then the ROT either sits back and waits for a defender to come at him"

This in itself is somewhat concerning as what mwindle is saying is 100% correct , a running play and the OL is going to sit back and wait for a defender to come at him? That defies the general principle of football blocking at any level of football.

I'm sorry... i've looked at every replay you've posted here, and I don't see it. I hold to my original determination.

Ok, thanks for the new examples, both rjssob and mwindle. Unfortunately, I have to agree with Rmiller on this one - I just dont see what youre seeing.

Originally posted by mwindle
Also OPer provided 2 examples of what your looking for here they are.

Yeah he showed them after I requested that...

I firmly believe that there is no buggy behaviour, though I do believe the OL/DL interaction does need improvement. We can't file suggestions as bugs though, so Im giving it a 2nd verification as not a bug.