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venom4789
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i know what they are but what is the best way to achieve them, i hear different things. is insanely high strenght the route. or blocking, or agility high with those high also, and how much do you think the SA pancake does for you.

i currently have a level 35 center and he has nothing yet intvested in the skill tree, yes he is a slow build but here are his natural stats, let me know what way to take him be a monster. i have other stats to train for a bit on purpose so keep that in mind why some are so low

strength-88.36
speed- 34
agility-67.86
jumping-8
stamina-15
vision- 25.86
confidence-23.86
blocking- 92.36
tackling-15.83
throwing-10
catching-8
carrying-9
kicking-9
punting-9

his custom eq is in running blocking and he has AEQ of foundation with a plus 3 to it bonus and pancake with a plus 3
 
HerrWuff
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Playing against lower level players will get you many pancakes
That is probably the best way to achieve them
 
venom4789
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only what if i want them against even competetion
 
ctjetfan92
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then a superior build is your best shot
 
venom4789
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how would you define that and how would you tell me to adjust
 
bigineurope
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I would say your strength should definitely be higher than your blocking. I heard somewhere that they should never be more than about 5 points apart, but the main attribute is strength first then blocking. Plus putting points into the SA's particularly the run blocking and pancake seems to help.

Although C's don't tend to get as many pancakes as other O-line guys, this is something I have noticed over the seasons. If it is in real life, the C is obviously preoccupied with snapping the ball first and then hitting his block second whereas other O-line guys only have to concentrate on coming off their stance and wiping out their D-lineman.
 
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Str is the answer...
 
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Originally posted by bigineurope
I would say your strength should definitely be higher than your blocking. I heard somewhere that they should never be more than about 5 points apart, but the main attribute is strength first then blocking. Plus putting points into the SA's particularly the run blocking and pancake seems to help.

Although C's don't tend to get as many pancakes as other O-line guys, this is something I have noticed over the seasons. If it is in real life, the C is obviously preoccupied with snapping the ball first and then hitting his block second whereas other O-line guys only have to concentrate on coming off their stance and wiping out their D-lineman.


Actually my str-blk margim is over 40 and my C do pretty good with pancakes
 
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Confidence plays a role as well...
 
dviss1
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The glaring thing I can see about that build is it has 5 wasted points. However, his stamina/confidence/vision are extremely low. After you get AGI to 69, get them all to the softcaps.
 
tobewon
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Originally posted by dviss1
The glaring thing I can see about that build is it has 5 wasted points.


Which ones?
 
crewe127
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Originally posted by dviss1
The glaring thing I can see about that build is it has 5 wasted points. However, his stamina/confidence/vision are extremely low. After you get AGI to 69, get them all to the softcaps.


Everything about your post from the avatar to the "5 wasted points" to the sign off is pretentious. What a douche. You do have a point about his stam/con/vision but that's only a level 35 C we're talking about.

OP here's the deal. Get your strength to 100+, get "hands" & pancake up to at least 5 (the higher the better for pancakes), and do as dviss1 advises and get your stam/con up to the 1st cap ASAP. That will help with the pancakes. Get vision up to the cap ASAP as well, that will help your players overall game but not so much with specifically pancakes.
 
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Originally posted by tobewon
Which ones?


1 in punting, kicking, and carrying, 2 in throwing.
 
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Originally posted by venom4789
i know what they are but what is the best way to achieve them, i hear different things. is insanely high strenght the route. or blocking, or agility high with those high also, and how much do you think the SA pancake does for you.

i currently have a level 35 center and he has nothing yet intvested in the skill tree, yes he is a slow build but here are his natural stats, let me know what way to take him be a monster. i have other stats to train for a bit on purpose so keep that in mind why some are so low

strength-88.36
speed- 34
agility-67.86
jumping-8
stamina-15
vision- 25.86
confidence-23.86
blocking- 92.36
tackling-15.83
throwing-10
catching-8
carrying-9
kicking-9
punting-9

his custom eq is in running blocking and he has AEQ of foundation with a plus 3 to it bonus and pancake with a plus 3


put all his equipment in strength. Go ahead and 3rd cap agility. Train up secondary skills and then cap all 4. Double cap speed and vision. Concentrate on get low and pancake SAs.
 


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