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As the title suggests Liquid....you're welcome for the ST MVP title! In our effort to have our cake and eat it too we lost the effort to get the Offensive MVP and relinquished the ST MVP too. Bonehead play on our part. Thats what you get for being greedy.

Gratz on the ST MVP...arguably Mike deserved the Defensive MVP too. Gratz on a great season all around.

The MVP formulas need some work I think. Like how can the Offensive MVP go to a player from a 4-12 team?

Originally posted by Krunchy
The MVP formulas need some work I think. Like how can the Offensive MVP go to a player from a 4-12 team?

I was just comparing the stats of Rohde http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=530792 and Daydream http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=772592 and I just don't see how Daydream got beat out for the MVP. Shear stats gives the edge to DB. Rohde seems propped up a little more by 2 really big games which counts for 55-60% of his stats where DBs 3 biggest game counts for much less than half production. Big games vs tough opponents seems to favour DB as well. Although I have to admit that KR vs Atlanta was a real back breaker. Hell, we only had DB returning for 12 games so we could try and get our O on the field more since we were having PT issues with so many ST touches.

I don't know much about how the MVP is calculated but the math doesn't seem to add up here. My objective here is not to slander Rohde. Kudos to him. He is obviously a very good return man on a very good team. But from my perspective (as biased as it is) I just don't get it.

And as for the O MVP (no I havn't stopped bitching yet =p) Krunchy's point has got merit. It doesn't make sense for the MVP to go to a team that is fighting off relegation despite the fact that he had the most combined yards from scrimmage and was a large % of the teams production. Isn't it understood that the MVP implies he gets the team to the next level (playoffs) or am I off base with that thought? I'm not saying it should have been our guy either.

Lastly. The D MVP. How could it not be Mike Blitzer. Not only are his stats significantly better but I think he has more value to Montana (top tier team) compared to Manhatten (mid tier team). I mean Blitzer literally doubles the next guy in tackles on one of the best defenses in the league (I believe that Rohde, technically 2nd in tackles, plays 90% on STs....correct me if I'm wrong). On Manhattan there are 2 other guys with as many tackles. Where SHakin stands out is his sacks. He's the most elite in the league BUT what would you rather have? 29 sacks or 29 Forced Fumbles? Seriously thats messed up. Throw in a decent amount of Sacks, Hurries and Picks for Blitzer too.

Regardless, my hats off to all the MVP winners. COngrats. Sorry if it sounds like I'm bitter.

Hey Moo, I think the tackles had something to do with it as well on STs? IDK, i agree though, dreamer stat wise as a returner was much better, but all around they maybe think Rohde was more of a complete ST player? (with tkls), and NOOO clue about the offensive and defensive MVPS, kind of ajoke ya know

Originally posted by LiquidSnake
Hey Moo, I think the tackles had something to do with it as well on STs? IDK, i agree though, dreamer stat wise as a returner was much better, but all around they maybe think Rohde was more of a complete ST player? (with tkls), and NOOO clue about the offensive and defensive MVPS, kind of ajoke ya know

ohhhh...good point about the tackles. I can buy that a little easier now.

I just wanted to say thank you to everyone that said I deserved the Def MVP and I want to congratulate Shakin Thunder for winning it.

DE's were nerfed and I am very happy to see they at least get some recognition with the MVP and putting up 29 sacks is a feat in itself.

Now lets get the playoffs started and see who the MVP will be when your team really needs it, who steps ups or goes home!!!!

Blitzer

i would like to say i wanna kick shakin in the nuts for making me take the double teams so he could get all the glory.

Originally posted by chicagokid
I just wanted to say thank you to everyone that said I deserved the Def MVP and I want to congratulate Shakin Thunder for winning it.

DE's were nerfed and I am very happy to see they at least get some recognition with the MVP and putting up 29 sacks is a feat in itself.

Now lets get the playoffs started and see who the MVP will be when your team really needs it, who steps ups or goes home!!!!

Blitzer

Ya, 29 sacks this year would have been close to 100 2 seasons ago.

They should be voted on.

Originally posted by JimVenice Esquire
They should be voted on.

That would be cool. A bit of a hassle to code since it would be exploitable, but having a player poll from the top 5 in each spot would be awesome.

Originally posted by JimVenice Esquire
They should be voted on.

Although, if they were voted on I don't think I would ever win an award.

The only problem is it would most likely become a popular vote instead of a legit vote.

Originally posted by LiquidSnake
The only problem is it would most likely become a popular vote instead of a legit vote.

You can just make it a % of the calc to add the 'human' element to it. Even if its only 10%

Originally posted by Moo45
Originally posted by LiquidSnake

The only problem is it would most likely become a popular vote instead of a legit vote.

You can just make it a % of the calc to add the 'human' element to it. Even if its only 10%

True, somewhat like the BCS

Originally posted by LiquidSnake
Originally posted by Moo45

Originally posted by LiquidSnake


The only problem is it would most likely become a popular vote instead of a legit vote.

You can just make it a % of the calc to add the 'human' element to it. Even if its only 10%

True, somewhat like the BCS

Oh God NO!!! Anything but the BCS