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Originally posted by valakar
Honestly had we tweaked one key thing instead of calling those two FB plays on 4th down that did not result in a first down we would have converted those 4th downs and scored on those drives thus causing us a victory. Also if we had not overlooked putting in some setting to cover 4th quarter down 4+ to open up more passing to get down the field and not have the clock run out things may have been differently also.

Not going to comment other then that. I know the interaction I had with your owner as does he. I kept that out of the conference forums but we can shed light on the entire exchange if that is what you are wanting? The funny thing is I did prove a point. I told your owner we would run the ball exclusively. It was very obvious from our exchange and yet he still couldn't stop it (we stopped ourselves on those plays mentioned above being the wrong play calls from the sim).

The Stingrays being a run team does not make it right. So if I say well we have been using this exploit for 5 seasons now not sure why it is such a big deal now all of a sudden. Please the defensive line mechanics against Strong I Slam, Single Back Slam, and the Inside runs from the I are virtually the same. It never has been a play issue and always has been a sim issue with how the HBs always gain the extra yardage and go through the pile untouched for a yard or so then tackled and still gain another 1/2 to 1 yard and thus when ran 4 downs you always get a first down. Thus you continue to drive the opponents time of possession down and cause them to lose energy and morale and the running gets more and more and more successful as the game goes on. That is the problem. I could care less if you run the ball 80-90% of the time. The only thing I was asking your owner to agree on is not running the same play over and over and over again on all 4 downs thus utilizing a known problem in the sim. He could have simply responded with we don't run the same play over and over again and will not do that on 4 downs. We run heavy always have but never intentional to exploit things. Instead he says things like "We will do whatever it takes to win" and other similar comments. So I was left no choice but to respond in what I felt gave us the only chance of winning. No passing team or balanced team can compete against a running team in the season 8 sim. If you want to challenge that be my guest but I am willing to wager that you will not have success finding many game that prove this wrong.

In the end I am proud of our team and our season and plan to move on. I have no ill will towards anyone but would appreciate it if people would not try to publicly slam anyone else without proper research. This is why all of my contact was made via PM with the owner of your team and not put out on the forums.

Oh quit trying to justify anything and if you did not think you had to why not just say good game? I did not start a thread saying you won because of cheese or calling you or the team out. So why did you have to add the extra commentary to your self promotion of the championship? Obviously nobody else cared enough to start a thread to congratulate you so there must be a reason for that.


GG Bats.
 
Don718
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Congrats, Knaim.

We finally got to a point where we can hang with you guys and you manage to escape.

Good luck in AAA.
 
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I love lamp.
 
knaim
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Originally posted by Talon
You are all douchebags. Thank you.


Don't hate the player, Hate the game bro.



 
kimimar0
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Discussing any tactics with the other team before a championship game is a terrible idea, thats why we just shot down any idea of it. And you talk about the game not being a good one. That wasnt because of the 100% run. That was because of your sloppy AI that caused you to run out the clock trailing by 6.
 
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I see that neither team had to gameplan offensively.
 
dijidiji
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Oy...you know, I've been kicking around EW AA#4 since season 2 (go Marseille Argonauts!). I wanted to stick around because of the league interaction. But I'm feeling OK about moving up to AAA and leaving all of this...negativity behind.
 
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Originally posted by dijidiji
Oy...you know, I've been kicking around EW AA#4 since season 2 (go Marseille Argonauts!). I wanted to stick around because of the league interaction. But I'm feeling OK about moving up to AAA and leaving all of this...negativity behind.


i love lamp.
 
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Originally posted by Don718
Congrats, Knaim.

We finally got to a point where we can hang with you guys and you manage to escape.

Good luck in AAA.


Thanks brother, I appreciate it. I am sure we'll see you in AAA in the future.
 
valakar
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Originally posted by dijidiji
Oy...you know, I've been kicking around EW AA#4 since season 2 (go Marseille Argonauts!). I wanted to stick around because of the league interaction. But I'm feeling OK about moving up to AAA and leaving all of this...negativity behind.


Until the sim gets fixed (looks like that is happening this offseason) there will be negativity. It is all over the place on GLB right now. A team with a 80 game winstreak (honorable team) lost to the slam. It is everywhere and some use lots of runs and others use one but the problem remains. I do agree there is a difference between constructive feedback and whining.
 
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guys why is this an issue all of a sudden? Why is this getting ugly now? 2 seasons in a row my running back had 4000 plus yards.....If you didn't know the game was slanted toward the run you are either A) an idiot or B) not paying attention. the only reason we didn't do it this season is we were trying to make the game more diverse and have more offensive balance.....mostly to keep ourselves interested in the game. The one play offense is nothing new!!!! 2 seasons ago it was the strong I right off tackle. Who cares!?! Those with the time and inclination will always find a short cut.......then everybody will copy it.....then someone will find a way to stop it......Wildcat offense anyone? 46 defense? the run and shoot?

Its really a lose lose situation if you don't exploit an obvious quirk in the game mechanics, you are foolish or stubborn.........but if thats all you do, then you're a tool.

Anyone remember Techmo Superbowl.........Bo Jackson left Bo jackson right......automatic win
 
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