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Originally posted by EagleOtto
I did the claculations for AA#1 to show who gets promoted, so I thought I'd share with you all. I'm 99% sure these are accurate.

So as of NOW

these teams should promote:
**West Yorkshire AA1
**Helsinki AA1
**Wichita Wild AA2
**Dublin Devils AA2

*Marcy AA2 15-1
*Paris AA1 13-3
*Dayton AA2 10-6
*Judah AA1 9-7
Rome AA1 15-1
Newcastle AA1 14-2 1009pts


These teams are below the cut-off, in this order, but if anymore AAA#1 or Pro teams fold they may still get the call up

Amsterdam AA2 14-2 888pts
Hungary AA2 13-3 1142pts
Stockholm AA1 13-3 1046pts
Rotterdam AA1 12-4
Permian AA2 11-5
Canterbury AA2 10-6

**=automatic promotion for championship game
*=played in conference final game

These #'s include 4 AAA#1 teams going CPU, and 2 Pro teams going CPU (calculations show AAA#1 replace both the first 2 Pro teams so far, the next 2 Pro teams to drop come from AAA#2 though).


Same order as I came up with in the 14th post of this thread, good you conformed I'm not a total moron.

I was in WEAAA#1 and visit their boards... they have pretty good information up there too.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2030591

They also are checking out the WEPL teams going down.
Mike
Rome Wolfpack

P.S. (Speaking of teams "going down") I look forward to dominating your teams next season. You are all pathetic losers. I own you and your mom.

Originally posted by mlcaiazzo
I was in WEAAA#1 and visit their boards... they have pretty good information up there too.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2030591

They also are checking out the WEPL teams going down.
Mike
Rome Wolfpack

P.S. (Speaking of teams "going down") I look forward to dominating your teams next season. You are all pathetic losers. I own you and your mom.

I feel sorry for you, if you own everyone's mom. That's got to be a lot of bitching you put up with.

Originally posted by ultrajer
The problem with the old system was nobody wanted the gutted Pro and AAA league teams
That's a funny thing for you to admit when you just got through insisting that everyone's goal was (or should be) getting to a Pro League, and that everyone has the same ability to recruit. Thanks for basically confirming my point.

Originally posted by
The current system is a shit pot better than the old system.
It obviously is not. Not only do you contradict yourself any time you try to make an argument for the new promotion system, but the facts show that the gaps between teams in conferences are increasing and that more teams than ever are gutting. The new promotion system solved absolutely nothing, while creating many more problems.

Originally posted by FredL
I'm curious as to why someone who is obviously a freaking whiner
It's only "whining" when your complaints aren't legitimate, and thus far you have embarrassed yourselves whenever you've tried to insist that I'm wrong. The reality is that the system did screw us over. Notice the "us." I'm far more pissed about having our agents get screwed over than I am about myself. We didn't complain about being unlucky enough for our team to start out in the toughest WEA conference, we just got better and tried to compete.

Originally posted by
Guess what? Nobody feels sorry for you because we all have had our own problems with the game. Sure, I might say recruiting sucks
Nice of you to admit that if I'm a "whiner," then you're one too. And for the record, we had other Zeta people argue on our behalf so you might want to quit running your mouth about who sympathizes with our situation. Moreover, you haven't had anything like our problems. You came up in a cupcake conference, and when you got promoted, you had earned it through playoff victories.

Originally posted by
I don't sit around and bitch and moan about it all the time in the forums and generally come across as a complete jerk
Newsflash: that's exactly what you're doing. You're bitching and moaning about me, and coming across as a complete jerk for running your mouth about something you have nothing to do with. If you have an actual point to make about the promotion system or any other aspect of the game, then by all means, share your opinion with the rest of us. That's why, when I complain, I explain what I have a problem with and how I feel it could be fixed. But if you just want to whine about me complaining, then save the effort and find yourself some other hobby.

Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by FredL

I'm curious as to why someone who is obviously a freaking whiner
It's only "whining" when your complaints aren't legitimate, and thus far you have embarrassed yourselves whenever you've tried to insist that I'm wrong. The reality is that the system did screw us over. Notice the "us." I'm far more pissed about having our agents get screwed over than I am about myself. We didn't complain about being unlucky enough for our team to start out in the toughest WEA conference, we just got better and tried to compete.

Originally posted by

Guess what? Nobody feels sorry for you because we all have had our own problems with the game. Sure, I might say recruiting sucks
Nice of you to admit that if I'm a "whiner," then you're one too. And for the record, we had other Zeta people argue on our behalf so you might want to quit running your mouth about who sympathizes with our situation. Moreover, you haven't had anything like our problems. You came up in a cupcake conference, and when you got promoted, you had earned it through playoff victories.

Originally posted by

I don't sit around and bitch and moan about it all the time in the forums and generally come across as a complete jerk
Newsflash: that's exactly what you're doing. You're bitching and moaning about me, and coming across as a complete jerk for running your mouth about something you have nothing to do with. If you have an actual point to make about the promotion system or any other aspect of the game, then by all means, share your opinion with the rest of us. That's why, when I complain, I explain what I have a problem with and how I feel it could be fixed. But if you just want to whine about me complaining, then save the effort and find yourself some other hobby.

No, pointing out that you are in fact a complete whiner is not being a whiner. It's like hitting someone upside the head and saying "Hey, shut up already." And if you want to pick out parts of people's quotes and then try to reply to them, well, I can do that too:

Originally posted by

I have a problem

Yes, yes you do have a problem. You have a problem with running your mouth at everyone. Which makes me just hope that we can play you sometime and kick your teeth in... Oh wait... we just did that.

On second thought, you are right. Your team should have remained in A. They were obviously not in the rest of the league's class. Totally overachieved and will probably continue to get their butts handed to them. In fact, you should break the team up, buy a new team and then start over in Africa BBB or somewhere similar. I was wrong. You were right.

Originally posted by FredL
No, pointing out that you are in fact a complete whiner is not being a whiner.
"Whining" about someone else "whining" is, in fact, "whining." My point is that any complaints I've made about our situation or GLB have been articulated and explained. I don't just say "this sucks." I explained why I have a problem with the things I had a problem with, and if you want to disagree with that, then I'd respect a response where you made a logical rebuttal. Just complaining about me criticizing the game solves nothing, however, so I have no idea what you're trying to do except start a fight.

Originally posted by
You have a problem with running your mouth at everyone. Which makes me just hope that we can play you sometime and kick your teeth in... Oh wait... we just did that.
I don't "run my mouth at everyone." I was upset about our agents getting screwed over, which is both understandable and legitimate. Some people obviously have their head up Bort's ass and don't want to hear anyone criticize the game, whether those criticisms are justified or not. I did have a problem with LL last season, but we're not in conflict now because I'm not going to try and start something with him when he's being a reasonable guy. Anyone else I've had a situation with this season has started it with me, I just responded. Like you, for instance. Oh, and congratulations on bragging about a scrimmage where your starters were 4 levels higher on average.

Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by ultrajer

The problem with the old system was nobody wanted the gutted Pro and AAA league teams
That's a funny thing for you to admit when you just got through insisting that everyone's goal was (or should be) getting to a Pro League, and that everyone has the same ability to recruit. Thanks for basically confirming my point.

Originally posted by

The current system is a shit pot better than the old system.
It obviously is not. Not only do you contradict yourself any time you try to make an argument for the new promotion system, but the facts show that the gaps between teams in conferences are increasing and that more teams than ever are gutting. The new promotion system solved absolutely nothing, while creating many more problems.


It was nice of you to pick what you wanted, but you didn't have the answer to the entire paragraph (a group of sentences that convey a similar idea) so here it is again in its entirety:

The problem with the old system was nobody wanted the gutted Pro and AAA league teams because no one would sign with the team because it either was 0-16 or was going to be 0-16, then it would get regulated one tier down, and again not enough players to be worth a shit would sign, again going 0-16 or if you were lucky enough to have another gutted team in the conference, 1-15. Now the owner has had the team 2 seasons, 1000 flex worth for what? Ass kicking after ass kicking? They paid their money too, so don't use that as your crutch. It would take 4 seasons to move down to BBB, at which time those teams would be higher in level and then you start getting the excuse, 'your team is too low in the chain'

Please address how you throw money away by being in a league semi-competitive (going 8-8), is worse than the situation described above (0-16 for many seasons)? (The entire thing, not just the first line)

Originally posted by ultrajer
It was nice of you to pick what you wanted
I quote the most relevant portions because including the entire post just stretches out the thread unnecessarily. The GLB forums are particularly bad about people quoting an entire post followed by a five word response.

Originally posted by
Please address how you throw money away by being in a league semi-competitive (going 8-8), is worse than the situation described above (0-16 for many seasons)? (The entire thing, not just the first line)
#1) You claimed that everyone should be trying to get to the Pro Leagues, and not just by winning lower level leagues. You also said that everyone has the same ability to recruit. If you stand by those statements, then you can't turn right around and say that rebuilding in Pro is an unacceptable situation.

#2) Everyone is able to choose what level team they want, so no one would be forced into that situation if they didn't want it. Meanwhile teams that are promoted too early have no choice about where they're going to be. Plus those are already established teams, not defacto expansion teams. When we started out in WEA3, the core group of players was pretty low level compared to other teams and we finished near the bottom of the rankings. We worked our way up over the next four seasons, just as a new team in Pro or AAA would have to. I'm not objecting to the fact that teams might not win right away, as we put in our time without complaint during those seasons, but taking away someone's chance at a championship right just as they're about to have some success is something else entirely. That's the point. We put in our time and flex points over four seasons to go from terrible to pretty good. We're not upset because we didn't win a league right away, but rather that we had put in all that time and got screwed just as that effort was about to pay off. If you were in the same situation, you'd damn sure be bitching about it too.

There are now 4 CPU teams not in the regulation spots in AAA #1, so with the 3 in Pro, that is a min of 5

So much for us being one away. Good luck AA I wish you all the best. Ive been shipped to the Zeta Conf for next year so I will no longer talk but win the title.