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So, you get to build all 7 players. How would you build them? Obviously, a DE in 3-4 needs more strength than one in a 4-3. How would you build your OLBs differently than your ILBs?

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All 3 lineman basically just walls. Not focusing on pass rushing skills. Two bulky ILB and two versatile more speed oriented OLB.

Obviously you want corners who can stay on an island and versatile safeties.

Originally posted by rlawrence
So, you get to build all 7 players. How would you build them? Obviously, a DE in 3-4 needs more strength than one in a 4-3. How would you build your OLBs differently than your ILBs?

Enjoy :-)

In real football, the DEs in a 3-4 are usually very strong. This is dotball though, and ultra-agile, weakling pass rush DEs are actually better at both pass and run defense than strong DEs, since they come off their blocks much faster and get to the RB.

NT is a wall shaped block eater.

I don't really care about the DEs. From an overall perspective I want them not getting pancaked and just eating up blocks.

My ILBs have to be rather fast.

My OLBs have to be STUPID fast.

Originally posted by BleedsOrangeAndBlue
NT is a wall shaped block eater.

I don't really care about the DEs. From an overall perspective I want them not getting pancaked and just eating up blocks.

My ILBs have to be rather fast.

My OLBs have to be STUPID fast.

ILBs need to shed blocks so they need to be jacked, like my LB built to be the TED (SILB)

Jacked as in strength?

How many times have you seen a high strength DT shed a block?

If by jacked you mean high agility and speed, I'd agree. Nothing I've seen has shown that strength is worth anything.

Does the NT really need to shed his block? Or does he need to not get pushed back? I would think the 2nd. (with the idea that he holds the line and lets LBs make the play.)

And if the 2nd is true, wouldn't enormous amounts of Strength make sense?

Originally posted by rlawrence
Does the NT really need to shed his block? Or does he need to not get pushed back? I would think the 2nd. (with the idea that he holds the line and lets LBs make the play.)

And if the 2nd is true, wouldn't enormous amounts of Strength make sense?

you would think so, but i don't think that's the way things work here. sure, STR will prevent him from getting pushed back as far, but how much does that really help the defense?

imo, a 3-4 NT's most important role is to eat up blockers. i think agility helps with that more than strength.

Originally posted by rlawrence
Does the NT really need to shed his block? Or does he need to not get pushed back? I would think the 2nd. (with the idea that he holds the line and lets LBs make the play.)

And if the 2nd is true, wouldn't enormous amounts of Strength make sense?

NTs get double-teamed by the center and RG and get pushed back remarkably far even with 110 strength.

Agility and vision based dline and ILBs

Speed crazed ROLB to blitz. LOLB same as in a 4-3

IDK how it rlates to this game, but IRL a 3-4 D would have these build types. DE go from the 260-280 of the 4-3 to 280-300 lbs, and sometimes bigger. Not unusual for 4-3 pass rushing DTs to become 3-4 DEs. DTs go from the 4-3 290-310 range, to 330 and above. ROLB is in the 235-245 range in 4-3 and 245-260 in the 3-4. He must be very quick to blitz and cover yet has to be a good runstopper too. RILB is 240-250 range as opposed to 235-245 range of the 4-3 ROLB. This person is like a 4-3 ROLB and must be able to cover and is usually the fastest LB. LILB is like MLB in 4-3. MLB runs about 240-250, LILB in the 245-260 range. LOLB in the 4-3 is 245-260. In the 3-4 it's in the 255-270 range. THis player has similar responsiblities to a 4-3 LDE. He's going to be rushing the passer against the TE and/or ROT. In some 3-4 schemes on 3rd down a CB comes in for the LILB. The NT comes out replaced by an DE, and the LOLB plays in a three point stance as basically the LDE. The Pats like to use LOLB to switch to 4-3 at will. The line slides right the LOLB moves in to the LE spot. The ILBs slide left and the ROLB moves up into the 4-3 ROLB position up behind and between the RDE/RDT.

we need a Mod or Bort to help us out with this.

I am the Defensive Coordinator for 10 teams currently, and I run the 3-4 Defense with all of them. I can tell you right now, the most successful builds are ones that are Agility based. Defensive Ends need to be Agility and Strength based in order to fight off blocks and hold their own in the run game. The Nose Tackle needs to be very strong with enough Agility to fight off blocks in pursuit to the ball carrier. All Linebackers in the 3-4 Defense need to be Agility based. Speed orientated Linebackers just don't get the job done. I'd recommend a +5 to Agility over Speed. 55 Vision is also adequate here as they need to be able to recognize their coverage assignments as well as recognizing the run and pass. The DBs need to be ridiculously quick and make great decisions. Great run stuffing 3-4 Defenses, have two good Safeties who can see the play developing very quickly. I'd really recommend a 1:1 ratio of Speed to Agility here as well. As you can see, Agility is THE attribute that helps out in the 3-4 Defense. It helps in staying on WR hips in pass coverage, blitzing, block shedding, and acceleration.

ILBs need vision and agility, OLBs need agility and speed