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Jim's rankings are amazing... Week 8 and beyond. Right now they're more or less just a starting point for the season as schedule strength and quality wins begin to start taking off.

Week 5 has some interesting matchups, including Cambodia vs Hell Valley. We're coming for you, Snow Monkeys! :]

Originally posted by Blink00
Jim's rankings are amazing... Week 8 and beyond. Right now they're more or less just a starting point for the season as schedule strength and quality wins begin to start taking off.

Week 5 has some interesting matchups, including Cambodia vs Hell Valley. We're coming for you, Snow Monkeys! :]

No kidding. I still have the remnants of flung monkey poop in my facemask from their beatdown of us in the playoffs last season.

Originally posted by jmarter
UPI poll results:

Rank … Strength of Record ……. Quality of Wins ............................ Team ............................... Record …
1 ......................... 3 ........................... -4.048071674 .................... Hakone Heroes ................. 3 - 0 .................... Naga
2 ......................... 3 ........................... -7.002605017 .................... Shanghai Cheetahs ............................ 3 - 0 .................... Garuda
3 ......................... 2 ........................... 1.009228971 .................... Surabaya Poison Dart Frogs ..................... 3 - 0 .................... Naga
4 ......................... 2 ........................... -6.520837428 .................... Cambodia Mountain Men ................... 3 - 0 .................... Naga
5 ......................... 2 ........................... -18.57195646 .................... Hell Valley Snow Monkeys ......................... 3 - 0 .................... Naga
6 ......................... 2 ........................... 13.66786655 .................... Tibet Psychonauts .............................. 2 - 1 .................... Naga
7 ......................... 2 ........................... 8.117274528 .................... Bandar Seri Begawan Marauders .................... 2 - 1 .................... Garuda
8 ......................... 2 ........................... 7.040827082 .................... Georgetown United ................. 2 - 1 .................... Garuda
9 ......................... 1 ........................... -18.08409519 .................... Palembang Tigers ................. 3 - 0 .................... Garuda
10 ......................... 1 ........................... -20.13646413 .................... Sumatra Sting ........... 3 - 0 .................... Naga
11 ......................... 0 ........................... -0.450873423 .................... The Manila Guerrillas ................ 3 - 0 .................... Garuda
12 ......................... 0 ........................... -2.265850285 .................... New Jersey Beaver Hunters ....................... 3 - 0 .................... Naga
13 ......................... 0 ........................... -63.18083431 .................... Malaysian Madness ................. 3 - 0 .................... Garuda
14 ......................... 0 ........................... 4.521276095 .................... Algeria Addiction .......... 2 - 1 .................... Naga
15 ......................... 0 ........................... -8.380943963 .................... Lea Lea Furniture ................................. 2 - 1 .................... Garuda
16 ......................... 0 ........................... -16.05302568 .................... Arctic Avalanche .................... 2 - 1 .................... Garuda
17 ......................... 0 ........................... 18.31954091 .................... Manila Pack ................. 1 - 2 .................... Naga
18 ......................... 0 ........................... -0.114855561 .................... Peking Stampede ............................. 0 - 3 .................... Garuda
19 ......................... -1 ........................... 2.355757732 .................... Garut Fire Horses ..... 2 - 1 .................... Garuda
20 ......................... -1 ........................... 8.087029092 .................... Shanghai Shadow Dragons .................. 1 - 2 .................... Garuda
21 ......................... -1 ........................... 8.079062695 .................... Tibetan Drunk Monks ...................... 1 - 2 .................... Garuda
22 ......................... -1 ........................... 32.88183177 .................... Manila Cyberballers .................... 0 - 3 .................... Naga
23 ......................... -1 ........................... 15.43687243 .................... Manila Death Squad ........................ 0 - 3 .................... Naga
24 ......................... -1 ........................... 15.33272701 .................... Kailua Tigers ........................ 0 - 3 .................... Garuda
25 ......................... -1 ........................... 13.67677879 .................... Midway Maulers .................. 0 - 3 .................... Garuda
26 ......................... -1 ........................... 6.815197057 .................... Phuket Water Dragons ......................... 0 - 3 .................... Naga
27 ......................... -1 ........................... 2.41492021 .................... Hanoi Hot Karls ..................... 0 - 3 .................... Garuda
28 ......................... -2 ........................... -4.612668572 .................... Brutal Deluxe ......................... 1 - 2 .................... Naga
29 ......................... -2 ........................... 6.328531793 .................... Ho Chi Minh Hookers ........ 0 - 3 .................... Naga
30 ......................... -2 ........................... 4.872384156 .................... Seoul Men ............................ 0 - 3 .................... Naga
31 ......................... -2 ........................... -0.015457143 .................... Taipei Yonghe soybean milk ....... 0 - 3 .................... Garuda
32 ......................... -3 ........................... 0.481431961 .................... Pingree Grove Pits .......................... 0 - 3 .................... Naga


Jmarter yet again underestimating the sting... he says we're the real deal but then puts us in 10th??????

Originally posted by swinter95
Originally posted by Forbin

Originally posted by swinter95


Originally posted by temperedjoker



How did the Cheetahs beat the Avalanche by 10+ points and we are ranked lower than them? How does that work out?

Still a good job but I just don't understand the rankings.

My power rankings are not only based on points scored, but also 19 other statistical categories, so it is true you beat the Avalanche, statistically they still hold a slight advantage over the cheetah's. SOS is accounted for, but since the season is still early this has little affect on the rankings.

I think the thing you really need to look at in relationship to the Avalanche, is that in week 2 you were 9.5 points behind the Avalanche, but after playing them you narrowed that gap to 4.5 points.

A second thing that hampered the cheetah's from week two to three was -1 turnover. 2 more Int's affects your power ranking negatively. Hope this helps clarify your question.

Originally posted by crzyblue



avalanche scored more points in the first 3 games then the cheetahs did... this is all based off points.

This is not all based off points, Offensive, Defensive and Special Teams Statistics are used. Past opponent's winning pct., numbers of wins vs. losses. Are all accounted for.

Doesn't Head to Head factor in heavily, though?

Head to Head is accounted for, depending how well they do after the game you played them. If the Avalanche continue win after this game, this will continue to strengthen the Cheetah's schedule. However if the Avalanche, fall on they're faces from here on out, the Cheetah's SOS is weakened. I could come up with other parameters to use head to head, but that requires some human component to determine the actual strength of the teams. Also with the head to head factor, that implies that I think one team is better than another. What value do I consistently put for head to head. Example:

Cheetah's beat the Avalanche and because of the win and the added performance of that game, they gained 5 points in the overall standings, but they're still be behind. So what happens next. Does Avalanche lose enough points to fall behind Cheetah's or do the Cheetah's get 5 extra points to pass them. That will no longer be a statistical representation of how the team performs Every situation will require a different amount points to overcome the next. There will be no set value.

I am playing around with some formulas to help weight strength of schedule into 4 stages after week 4,8,12,16. I have another game to see how it goes, and I hope I can roll it in before the week 5 games. We'll see.

If your team plays a really tough up front schedule, you'll be hurt by the power rankings, but as the season moves along, if good enough, your teams shall rise to the top.


Thank you for the additional insight into how your spreadsheet works. It sounds like you've put alot of thought into it.


I do like having jmarters also. And I like seeing the 'BCS' combo rankings.

Originally posted by crzyblue

Jmarter yet again underestimating the sting... he says we're the real deal but then puts us in 10th??????

If you haven't noticed, it's based on a formula. He didn't "put" the Sting at 10th, that's just where they ended up based on the formula. Like Blink said, give it a few more weeks.

Originally posted by crzyblue
Originally posted by jmarter

UPI poll results:

Rank … Strength of Record ……. Quality of Wins ............................ Team ............................... Record …
1 ......................... 3 ........................... -4.048071674 .................... Hakone Heroes ................. 3 - 0 .................... Naga
2 ......................... 3 ........................... -7.002605017 .................... Shanghai Cheetahs ............................ 3 - 0 .................... Garuda
3 ......................... 2 ........................... 1.009228971 .................... Surabaya Poison Dart Frogs ..................... 3 - 0 .................... Naga
4 ......................... 2 ........................... -6.520837428 .................... Cambodia Mountain Men ................... 3 - 0 .................... Naga
5 ......................... 2 ........................... -18.57195646 .................... Hell Valley Snow Monkeys ......................... 3 - 0 .................... Naga
6 ......................... 2 ........................... 13.66786655 .................... Tibet Psychonauts .............................. 2 - 1 .................... Naga
7 ......................... 2 ........................... 8.117274528 .................... Bandar Seri Begawan Marauders .................... 2 - 1 .................... Garuda
8 ......................... 2 ........................... 7.040827082 .................... Georgetown United ................. 2 - 1 .................... Garuda
9 ......................... 1 ........................... -18.08409519 .................... Palembang Tigers ................. 3 - 0 .................... Garuda
10 ......................... 1 ........................... -20.13646413 .................... Sumatra Sting ........... 3 - 0 .................... Naga
11 ......................... 0 ........................... -0.450873423 .................... The Manila Guerrillas ................ 3 - 0 .................... Garuda
12 ......................... 0 ........................... -2.265850285 .................... New Jersey Beaver Hunters ....................... 3 - 0 .................... Naga
13 ......................... 0 ........................... -63.18083431 .................... Malaysian Madness ................. 3 - 0 .................... Garuda
14 ......................... 0 ........................... 4.521276095 .................... Algeria Addiction .......... 2 - 1 .................... Naga
15 ......................... 0 ........................... -8.380943963 .................... Lea Lea Furniture ................................. 2 - 1 .................... Garuda
16 ......................... 0 ........................... -16.05302568 .................... Arctic Avalanche .................... 2 - 1 .................... Garuda
17 ......................... 0 ........................... 18.31954091 .................... Manila Pack ................. 1 - 2 .................... Naga
18 ......................... 0 ........................... -0.114855561 .................... Peking Stampede ............................. 0 - 3 .................... Garuda
19 ......................... -1 ........................... 2.355757732 .................... Garut Fire Horses ..... 2 - 1 .................... Garuda
20 ......................... -1 ........................... 8.087029092 .................... Shanghai Shadow Dragons .................. 1 - 2 .................... Garuda
21 ......................... -1 ........................... 8.079062695 .................... Tibetan Drunk Monks ...................... 1 - 2 .................... Garuda
22 ......................... -1 ........................... 32.88183177 .................... Manila Cyberballers .................... 0 - 3 .................... Naga
23 ......................... -1 ........................... 15.43687243 .................... Manila Death Squad ........................ 0 - 3 .................... Naga
24 ......................... -1 ........................... 15.33272701 .................... Kailua Tigers ........................ 0 - 3 .................... Garuda
25 ......................... -1 ........................... 13.67677879 .................... Midway Maulers .................. 0 - 3 .................... Garuda
26 ......................... -1 ........................... 6.815197057 .................... Phuket Water Dragons ......................... 0 - 3 .................... Naga
27 ......................... -1 ........................... 2.41492021 .................... Hanoi Hot Karls ..................... 0 - 3 .................... Garuda
28 ......................... -2 ........................... -4.612668572 .................... Brutal Deluxe ......................... 1 - 2 .................... Naga
29 ......................... -2 ........................... 6.328531793 .................... Ho Chi Minh Hookers ........ 0 - 3 .................... Naga
30 ......................... -2 ........................... 4.872384156 .................... Seoul Men ............................ 0 - 3 .................... Naga
31 ......................... -2 ........................... -0.015457143 .................... Taipei Yonghe soybean milk ....... 0 - 3 .................... Garuda
32 ......................... -3 ........................... 0.481431961 .................... Pingree Grove Pits .......................... 0 - 3 .................... Naga


Jmarter yet again underestimating the sting... he says we're the real deal but then puts us in 10th??????

Trust me, I don't underestimate the Sting. The computers just don't seem to like your schedule thus far.

yeah same as last year our schedule is weak to start, but just like last year it wont even out till day 39 lol