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Originally posted by rowento
Originally posted by onlyrockerfan

figured out what the GRE stood for when i wiki'd it, but I didn't read too much in depth of what it really was....just wanted to know what it stood for


I had the privilege of taking it about 8 years ago. Makes for a long Saturday morning. However, it is a necessity for someone wanting to attend graduate school in the sciences. In fact, many schools require the subject specific GRE.


I'm glad that the programs that I'm applying to don't require a subject test. But yeah, the GRE is kinda like the SAT/ACT on steroids.
 
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Originally posted by Gabrosin
Originally posted by bruiser 1234

Originally posted by Spiel


Yeah, but notice how the BCS doesn't come out until much later in the season?

I just don't get the point. We were supposed to lose by 70 to a team we beat by 28.

I'm befuddled.


I am ONLY posting these now to try and get some POSTING in the conference forum. The conference forum was the worst I have been a part of. It has worked out some has it not?!?!?

Plus I need to do the work now, so I figured I would post it. There is no rules against that, you don't like it then don't post. Enough of us in here understand the projectors and have not bitched, so why do you have to?


Easy bruiser... this is just like Montana flipping out over the A4 all-pro teams two seasons ago. Some people feel disrespected because they have a fundamental lack of understanding of the process. Just keep posting the projections... they make for good conversation and they get better as the season goes on.

Spiel, the simulator doesn't have enough data to know whether a team is "good" yet. If a team is 1-1 with a close win and a blowout loss, they could be an average team who played one awesome team and one average team, or a terrible team who played one average team and one terrible team. Singapore had two close games and one blowout win for a 2-1 record; Taiwan had played three easy games against three teams who hadn't won a game between them. So the simulator had no idea whether Taiwan was a mediocre team who blew out terrible teams or a great team who blew out terrible teams; all it knew was that Singapore had beaten a good Guam team and barely lost to a good Vietnam team. Advantage Singapore.

Now the simulator's got a bit more data to work with, and Taiwan will be more likely to win in future projections. Not that it matters, since they're just projections anyway.

And Bruiser's right, this forum's pretty sad.



I just had a problem with teams nominating their own teammates and not other teams players who
had better stats since that was obviously just a statistical thing. I had no problem understanding the process...
IMO the process was flawed. It was that simple. I appreciate anyone putting in work and regardless of how accurate this projector is, the fact is that it's great that someone is willing to put in the time and work.

Now perhaps Gabrosin felt slighted since he was spearheading the A all-pro team thing but our
conversations were private and on pms. It just got to the point that I said if he wanted to
post our conversations then I had nothing to hide as I felt I made my point logically and sensibly and still stand by it. If you think about it if the better player isn't even nominated then is that not a mockery? That is all. Doesn't mean I don't appreciate effort made by Gabrosin or anyone else in this game. I just don't have the time and inclination as I
am self absorb just like most with real life

Hope that the forum gets livelier and predictions keep being made just to keep things lively.

I believe that this league has become very competitive this season and it will be interesting
to see how it all pans out in the end.

I am also personally glad to see former foes arrive to help renew rivalries.

Good luck to all.
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Originally posted by GOLee
Originally posted by rowento

I had the privilege of taking it about 8 years ago. Makes for a long Saturday morning. However, it is a necessity for someone wanting to attend graduate school in the sciences. In fact, many schools require the subject specific GRE.


I'm glad that the programs that I'm applying to don't require a subject test. But yeah, the GRE is kinda like the SAT/ACT on steroids.


What's a "subject specific" GRE? The last time I checked, there was only 1.

The GRE is the de facto standard test (like the SAT) for admission to most quantitative graduate schools. It tests things like mental reasoning and aptitude to logic. Generally, if you want a PhD or MS in engineering, science, math, or quantitative business, you take the GRE.

The GRE asks the sorts of questions that start "if a train leaves chicago at 3 am ..." Here's the sort of questions they asked:

Originally posted by

1. This question refers to the following table:

PERCENT CHANGE IN DOLLAR AMOUNT OF SALES
IN CERTAIN RETAIL STORES FROM 1977 TO 1979

Percent Change
Store From 1977
to 1978 From 1978
to 1979
P +10 -10
Q -20 +9
R +5 +12
S -7 -15
T +17 -8



In 1979, for which of the stores was the dollar amount of sales greater than that of any of the others shown?
(A) P
(B) Q
(C) R
(D) S
(E) It cannot be determined from the information given.



The LSAT is the graduate test for law school, the MCAT is for medical school, the GMAT is for non-quantitative business school (MBA), etc. There are hundreds of types of exams depending on you specific field, but those are the most well known. Those exams are not "specific" GRE exams, they're all completely different. Some schools make you take multiple exams (e.g. a quantitative finance PhD would probably require the GRE and GMAT).

As for difficulty, the GRE really is the easiest of the graduate exams I took. It's even easier now that they've done away with the analytic section (it used to have 3 section and a max school of 2400, now it is 2 and a max score of 1600). I thought the GMAT was more stress. The GMAT is an easier exam, but people perform relatively better so you need to perform better to get a high percentile. Plus, the GMAT has tougher time restrictions.

Then there's the LSAT, which isn't difficult either, but people perform even better (and study for a year or more for it), so you really have to do well to get a high score.

 
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Then you have the GED. That's a friggin tough exam
 
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Originally posted by matta
Originally posted by GOLee

Originally posted by rowento


I had the privilege of taking it about 8 years ago. Makes for a long Saturday morning. However, it is a necessity for someone wanting to attend graduate school in the sciences. In fact, many schools require the subject specific GRE.


I'm glad that the programs that I'm applying to don't require a subject test. But yeah, the GRE is kinda like the SAT/ACT on steroids.


What's a "subject specific" GRE? The last time I checked, there was only 1.




There 8 subject specific tests. They are in:
Biochemistry, Cell and Molecular Biology
Biology
Chemistry
Computer Science
Literature in English
Mathematics
Physics
Psychology

These tests have area specific questions to gauge your knowledge of the particular subject. As a chemist, the chemistry test is composed of 130 questions with 15% Analytical Chemistry, 25% Inorganic Chemistry, 30% Organic Chemistry, and 30% Physical Chemistry.

More info can be found at www.gre.org

I too am disappointed that they took off the analytical section and made it analytical writing. It was my favorite section since I scored an 800 on it


 
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Originally posted by matta
Originally posted by GOLee

Originally posted by rowento


I had the privilege of taking it about 8 years ago. Makes for a long Saturday morning. However, it is a necessity for someone wanting to attend graduate school in the sciences. In fact, many schools require the subject specific GRE.


I'm glad that the programs that I'm applying to don't require a subject test. But yeah, the GRE is kinda like the SAT/ACT on steroids.


What's a "subject specific" GRE? The last time I checked, there was only 1.

The GRE is the de facto standard test (like the SAT) for admission to most quantitative graduate schools. It tests things like mental reasoning and aptitude to logic. Generally, if you want a PhD or MS in engineering, science, math, or quantitative business, you take the GRE.

The GRE asks the sorts of questions that start "if a train leaves chicago at 3 am ..." Here's the sort of questions they asked:

Originally posted by


1. This question refers to the following table:

PERCENT CHANGE IN DOLLAR AMOUNT OF SALES
IN CERTAIN RETAIL STORES FROM 1977 TO 1979

Percent Change
Store From 1977
to 1978 From 1978
to 1979
P +10 -10
Q -20 +9
R +5 +12
S -7 -15
T +17 -8



In 1979, for which of the stores was the dollar amount of sales greater than that of any of the others shown?
(A) P
(B) Q
(C) R
(D) S
(E) It cannot be determined from the information given.



The LSAT is the graduate test for law school, the MCAT is for medical school, the GMAT is for non-quantitative business school (MBA), etc. There are hundreds of types of exams depending on you specific field, but those are the most well known. Those exams are not "specific" GRE exams, they're all completely different. Some schools make you take multiple exams (e.g. a quantitative finance PhD would probably require the GRE and GMAT).

As for difficulty, the GRE really is the easiest of the graduate exams I took. It's even easier now that they've done away with the analytic section (it used to have 3 section and a max school of 2400, now it is 2 and a max score of 1600). I thought the GMAT was more stress. The GMAT is an easier exam, but people perform relatively better so you need to perform better to get a high percentile. Plus, the GMAT has tougher time restrictions.

Then there's the LSAT, which isn't difficult either, but people perform even better (and study for a year or more for it), so you really have to do well to get a high score.



There are 8 GRE subject tests. Trust me. Or this site:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduate_Record_Examination#GRE_Subject_Tests

You take them for specific areas of study. I am a human developmental biologist. I debated taking the GRE Biology Subject Test and/or the Cell and Molecular Biology subject test. I decided that my research experience was sufficient.
 
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