Warrior General Games

Originally posted by DLight03
Once again, you miss the point that it's inaccurate to make that kind of comparison. Obviously on plays where Grueso/Gitinji are BOTH on the field at the same time, the TEAM has a BETTER chance of registering a sack (while the individual has less of a chance).

However... because they are both starting at the same time, there are also plays where NEITHER is on the field AT ALL. Which results in a ZERO PERCENT CHANCE to register a sack on plays during the game.

It goes both ways. Some plays they are both on the field, some plays NEITHER is on the field... and yes, some plays, only one is on the field. That's the strategical side of starting two at once, instead of putting the best back to back at RDE. There's good and there's bad.
i lied. i'm gonna try once more even though its against my better judgement.

again, you are absolutely right! but here is where you went wrong

times when both DEs are on the field:
- g1/g2: sometimes
- sz/ru: never

times when only 1 is on the field:
- g1/g2: sometimes
- sz/ru: sometimes

times when NONE of them are on the field:
- g1/h2: sometimes
- sz/ru: sometimes

do you see now? yes, BOTH g1/g2 might be sitting, BUT THAT CAN ALSO HAPPEN WITH US. in other words, every situation that can come up is possible for both pairs of DEs and will average out over multiple games -- EXCEPT HAVING BOTH ON -- that only happens with g1/g2.

Originally posted by bacardi

times when NONE of them are on the field:
- g1/h2: sometimes
- sz/ru: sometimes


Incorrect.

If Sackz/Rufus are backing eachother up exclusively at RDE (which they were, EXCLUSIVELY for much of the season), then one of those two players will ALWAYS be on the field. Never will both players be off the field unless you have more than those two players backing up RDE, which was not the case.

Originally posted by DLight03
unless you have more than those two players backing up RDE

hey look, its the first correct assumption you've made in this entire thread! go back and read my other posts. what did i say about stat padding. what did i say about our backups.

damn. this will be my 2nd post after i said i was done. and at this point, i realize you're not even reading my posts, but just looking for 1 thing you can turn and write about it. this is such a wasted effort. good luck with your DEs :] they rock!

Originally posted by bacardi
Originally posted by DLight03

unless you have more than those two players backing up RDE

hey look, its the first correct assumption you've made in this entire thread! go back and read my other posts. what did i say about stat padding. what did i say about our backups.

damn. this will be my 2nd post after i said i was done. and at this point, i realize you're not even reading my posts, but just looking for 1 thing you can turn and write about it. this is such a wasted effort. good luck with your DEs :] they rock!

I followed your DEs for much of the season.

They were playing back-to-back exclusively at RDE for large portion of the season. There were no other DEs there.

How do I know that? How can I prove that?

Because you can take any random play from a large portion of games and either Sackz or Rufus will be in the play at RDE. Every. Single play. For every game, for every play, before the change was made to start them at the same time much later in the season.

And the fact that you've started both at once, and also tried exclusively playing both on one side, is more to the point that you have no point. Those DEs have played the same way Grueso/Githinji have, and they have played the other way. So any sort of comparison based on one way or the other is silly, because you've done both for extended periods of time.

I THINK WE'VE ALSO LOST SIGHT OF THE POINT OF THIS THREAD

need a team.

pm me guys.

the point is this

if you're looking at collective stats, i.e. G1+G2 and Sackz+Rufus

sacks+rufus would not equal more than the # of defensive plays in the game because they're backing each other up. let's say there are 50 defensive plays, thus there are exactly 50 singular opportunities for a sack.

whereas, if g1+g2 are in separate spots (especially as starters), each of them could get 35+ plays a game, which is at least 70 singular opportunities for a sack.

the fact that they are overlapping is insignificant because none of the other DEs are going to make the play

yes, there are cases where both will be off the field, but the bottom line is there are more collective opportunities to sack the qb. hence why we switched it up at the end of the season once the backups could hold their own

Man, I'll miss you guys ahaha.