This is silly guys. We have a spy in Tonga and we're all still friends.
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If you're looking for someone to blame, blame me for this and not nelson. I referred him to the burning pride, because I'm friends with Fnord, and I knew he needed players while also knowing that Nelson's team was disbanding. He needed somewhere to go for the rest of the season. I hadn't realized he had players on the Strike, else I would have suggested he mention it to you. I'm not even sure he thought about it.
Rest assured that he didn't spy, and that the pride didn't change their gameplan -- I know the tactics they run, as I myself have majorly helped Fnord with them. So, if you want to be pissed at anyone, look no further than me. Nelson's been a great guy as far as I'm concerned, and I don't think he deserves this from people for what was a lapse in judgement of not sharing this info. So, please give him a break here.
Did he make a mistake? Yes. But, jeesh, we all make mistakes. It happens. I shouldn't have referred him in the first place, and probably wouldn't have had I seen he had players on the Strike. Being that he and I talk a lot, he had talked to me about helping him find a home for these guys, so I went with the first option I knew.
Rest assured that he didn't spy, and that the pride didn't change their gameplan -- I know the tactics they run, as I myself have majorly helped Fnord with them. So, if you want to be pissed at anyone, look no further than me. Nelson's been a great guy as far as I'm concerned, and I don't think he deserves this from people for what was a lapse in judgement of not sharing this info. So, please give him a break here.
Did he make a mistake? Yes. But, jeesh, we all make mistakes. It happens. I shouldn't have referred him in the first place, and probably wouldn't have had I seen he had players on the Strike. Being that he and I talk a lot, he had talked to me about helping him find a home for these guys, so I went with the first option I knew.
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It's definitely not your fault, MrMoose. In fact, it's nobody's fault, because there's nothing to fault anyone for. Hence why I think the spying accusations being thrown around are pretty ridiculous. In hindsight, it probably would have been better for Canberra to be notified that some of Nelson's players were now on NZBP, but it didn't happen and I don't see why Vilita is making a huge deal out of it.
I know that it's frustrating to lose, but blaming Nelson for it is dumb and counterproductive. We lost 3 of our first 4 this season, so I know where you're coming from, but in our case we responded to the losses by completely overhauling our offensive and defensive AI (Barnsie and MrMoose have done great jobs on that front) and putting a lot of work into optimizing our builds. Between that and the fact that we had a brutally hard early schedule, we've been on a pretty solid roll ever since. Losses are going to happen, so you might as well learn from them rather than try to pass blame around.
I know that it's frustrating to lose, but blaming Nelson for it is dumb and counterproductive. We lost 3 of our first 4 this season, so I know where you're coming from, but in our case we responded to the losses by completely overhauling our offensive and defensive AI (Barnsie and MrMoose have done great jobs on that front) and putting a lot of work into optimizing our builds. Between that and the fact that we had a brutally hard early schedule, we've been on a pretty solid roll ever since. Losses are going to happen, so you might as well learn from them rather than try to pass blame around.
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Also note, I never mentioned to Nelson what league/division the Burning Pride were in. So he didn't know, and was taking my word at face value for what team to sign with for this season.
And Brady, thanks, but had I mentioned the division, there's a chance Nelson may have mentioned something to the Strike. So if someone has to be blamed, it should be me for not being complete. I didn't tell Fnord that he had players on the Strike; I didn't realize he had players there either. Had I mentioned it, his players likely wouldn't have been signed.
Therefore, it is on me, and noone else, whether some people see it as a problem or not.
And Brady, thanks, but had I mentioned the division, there's a chance Nelson may have mentioned something to the Strike. So if someone has to be blamed, it should be me for not being complete. I didn't tell Fnord that he had players on the Strike; I didn't realize he had players there either. Had I mentioned it, his players likely wouldn't have been signed.
Therefore, it is on me, and noone else, whether some people see it as a problem or not.
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Originally posted by yoohoodrinker
This is silly guys. We have a spy in Tonga and we're all still friends.
Yeah, but after that last beat down, I'm going to have to stop PM-ing you guys our game plans - you clearly don't need them anymore.
This is silly guys. We have a spy in Tonga and we're all still friends.
Yeah, but after that last beat down, I'm going to have to stop PM-ing you guys our game plans - you clearly don't need them anymore.
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Oh, since I just saw this:
Originally posted by Vilita
So now you're telling me you signed FIVE GUYS from a user without so much as looking at their players page? I find that quite hard to believe from a competent owner/GM such as yourself...
Actually, I just sent Fnord 5 links to players and told him to sign whoever he wanted and to let me know who he didnt want so I could help nelson find a place for them. As I'm sure you know, Vilita, Nelson has a ton of guys, and I didn't want Fnord to have to rifle through all of them, and I didn't want there to be any potential problems with other guys Nelson may have had plans for (incase Fnord tried to sign the wrong guy, or some such). So I figured that was the safest way to handle it. But I made a mistake there.
As I've said already, I do apologize for that. There were no ill intentions on my part in this, nor Nelsons -- he went there because of me, not because he wanted to spy.
Originally posted by Vilita
So now you're telling me you signed FIVE GUYS from a user without so much as looking at their players page? I find that quite hard to believe from a competent owner/GM such as yourself...
Actually, I just sent Fnord 5 links to players and told him to sign whoever he wanted and to let me know who he didnt want so I could help nelson find a place for them. As I'm sure you know, Vilita, Nelson has a ton of guys, and I didn't want Fnord to have to rifle through all of them, and I didn't want there to be any potential problems with other guys Nelson may have had plans for (incase Fnord tried to sign the wrong guy, or some such). So I figured that was the safest way to handle it. But I made a mistake there.
As I've said already, I do apologize for that. There were no ill intentions on my part in this, nor Nelsons -- he went there because of me, not because he wanted to spy.
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Originally posted by MC_Hammer
Head.... pants.....now!
I think I'm the only one on here who got that joke. hahaha great movie character if not a great movie
Head.... pants.....now!
I think I'm the only one on here who got that joke. hahaha great movie character if not a great movie
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Originally posted by MC_Hammer
Originally posted by killertoad
Originally posted by MC_Hammer
Since all of the teams are going to be tough in the playoffs, IC doesn't care who we play because we are gonna bring it!
We do want one more chance to beat RTT though if the seedings work out just so.
Nevah!! To quote the great Mickey...
You can't win, Rock! This guy will kill you to death inside of three rounds!
Does that mean I need to move to Philly and chase chickens before the playoffs start? There isn't any snow here in Dallas (or old beat-up barns within easy distance) to prep for a Drago.
We do know how that ended up though eh Toad?
Rocky! Rocky! Rocky! Rocky! Rocky! .........
And for the record it was Clubber Lang not Drago...and you know how that 1st Clubber fight ended...PAIN!!!
Originally posted by killertoad
Originally posted by MC_Hammer
Since all of the teams are going to be tough in the playoffs, IC doesn't care who we play because we are gonna bring it!
We do want one more chance to beat RTT though if the seedings work out just so.
Nevah!! To quote the great Mickey...
You can't win, Rock! This guy will kill you to death inside of three rounds!
Does that mean I need to move to Philly and chase chickens before the playoffs start? There isn't any snow here in Dallas (or old beat-up barns within easy distance) to prep for a Drago.
We do know how that ended up though eh Toad?
Rocky! Rocky! Rocky! Rocky! Rocky! .........
And for the record it was Clubber Lang not Drago...and you know how that 1st Clubber fight ended...PAIN!!!
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I stand corrected, lol.
But this is the revamped Rocky representing in IC this season.... remember this would be our SECOND matchup this season if it happens, and the second CLubber match was a win for Rocky.
But this is the revamped Rocky representing in IC this season.... remember this would be our SECOND matchup this season if it happens, and the second CLubber match was a win for Rocky.
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Bah it's all Mr. T to me... I mean really, we're not talking about a lot of range. There isn't much difference between B.A. Barracus and Clubber. Then again, even his latest Night Elf Mohawk sounds like the other two too.
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Originally posted by Germs
Scace is so bad ass that any and all future OPro Free Agents should immediately PM him for how they can join the MTD team. (and Heat)
"My name is Germs and I endorse this message"
Screw all this muckity muck and drama, and more of the above. We need CHANGE and REAL issues!
"I'm Germs and I endorse this propoganda"
Scace is so bad ass that any and all future OPro Free Agents should immediately PM him for how they can join the MTD team. (and Heat)
"My name is Germs and I endorse this message"
Screw all this muckity muck and drama, and more of the above. We need CHANGE and REAL issues!
"I'm Germs and I endorse this propoganda"
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Originally posted by turnit643
Originally posted by yoohoodrinker
This is silly guys. We have a spy in Tonga and we're all still friends.
Yeah, but after that last beat down, I'm going to have to stop PM-ing you guys our game plans - you clearly don't need them anymore.
Now what about those credit card numbers?
Originally posted by yoohoodrinker
This is silly guys. We have a spy in Tonga and we're all still friends.
Yeah, but after that last beat down, I'm going to have to stop PM-ing you guys our game plans - you clearly don't need them anymore.
Now what about those credit card numbers?
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