Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Xars
Again. Yes it's an added element with GLB2 but I guess you don't watch ESPN.

Last year, Tim Hasselback picked up his brother on waivers in his ESPN league because Matt told him he'd be starting because Andrew Luck was injured. Inside information is something you're supposed to get or at least be cognizant that others may have it.

So if the ESPN guys can get had by the Hasselback brothers, you think it shouldn't happen in Stobie's GLB2 Fantasy???



You play in the ESPN league?

What kind of an idiot would pickup a hassle back?? would have been 10 better QBs on the waiver wire for sure.

Originally posted by Stobie
In a normal week this fix wouldn't have changed a thing tbh.

This week was very unique, there were no players worth more than 6 or 7000 meaning there was no cap on the season so why not everyone go for the #1 QB by far with little penalty. My question is why did 21 out of 23 people go for the same person? That is more of a concern of mine than what really happened. The fact that people felt safe enough to spend the money on that QB en mass means there was no risk/reward for choosing another QB.

Please don't think I am just letting this go. Its on full blast that I am not happy about this, but at the same point, it is not the first time he has done this (switching QB's) its a tactic on his part and I can't blame him for thinking of it. It is insider information, and there is no way I can protect against that. But what I can do is in weird weeks like this where there essentially is no cap, is to try and make there a cap.

Long story short with this change the player that would have cost 7000 which was the best player this last week, will now cost 10,000 and all players are adjusted accordingly. This forces you to make the decisions based off the best available player costing 10,000. IMO that was a bug in my code, and I have fixed that. I will adjust going forward in unforeseeable events, but until they come up, I will not pretend to solve them.

PER THE QB ISSUE THIS WEEK

I will be setting all players that picked the benched QB to the same QB as Spas. That way I adjust for this week and react to any future issues when they come up.

Stobie, thinking about it, you have a bug in the sense that when a player is benched, that week does not show up on their history and is not reflected in their average score and salary.

Hittin should have actually been cheaper, but players could have also seen there was a risk that he might not play at all.

I saw a week was missing, but I assumed you had an incomplete scrape. Now I understand he didn't play. There was talk about why data was missing.

Originally posted by Cuivienen
You play in the ESPN league?

I play on Wall Street. For real money.

My job was to get that type of information. Everyone's is.

You really need to stop acting like this is the exception in everyone's normal everyday life.

Why did that Shopping Center get built down the street from you?
Or that new highway?
Or the Restaurant you enjoy going to?
Ever use Facebook?
Snapchat?
Uber?

Really, how do you think things happen in this world?

Show me your everyday life and I'll probably be able to show you 100 different ways people used influence/knowledge/etc. to get an advantage that effects your day. The fact that you don't realize it is a you problem.

Lol, calm down. You are babbling.

Xars babbling? that's unpossible.

Originally posted by Cuivienen
Stobie, thinking about it, you have a bug in the sense that when a player is benched, that week does not show up on their history and is not reflected in their average score and salary.

Hittin should have actually been cheaper, but players could have also seen there was a risk that he might not play at all.

I saw a week was missing, but I assumed you had an incomplete scrape. Now I understand he didn't play. There was talk about why data was missing.

You do have a point here.... I do believe I omit null results from the display though I don't think I nullify from calculations. I will look into that part, and change it to show empty games as well. He shows up as a stats item, I am just not putting it out there.

Originally posted by Xars
I play on Wall Street. For real money.

So if this was Wall Street you'd be ok if the CEO of a publicly traded company engaged in a significant trade (buy or sell) based on information that only he knew? In this scenario, let's assume the market made said company appear to be a good (perhaps the best) option to trade the opposite direction (sell if the CEO was buying, buy if the CEO was selling). I have a feeling said CEO would quickly become friends with investigators from the FTC, SEC, and FBI.

I don't think Spastic went out of his way to screw over the community. In a "normal" week his QB may not have been as attractive and his move would have impacted fewer players. Stobie put a fix into place which should prevent an extremely abnormal week like this one from happening again so hopefully this is behind up.

In order to follow proper GLB tradition, I'll just keep it simple and blame Stu.

Originally posted by Stobie
I don't think I nullify from calculations.

I wish I could go back and check, but I believe his score average was in the 50s which I would think would be a little high if there should have been a zero in there with so little games so far this season to pull that zero up with an average.

And I am pretty sure you calculate salary based on rounded score average.

Originally posted by AirMcMVP
I don't think Spastic went out of his way to screw over the community. In a "normal" week his QB may not have been as attractive and his move would have impacted fewer players. Stobie put a fix into place which should prevent an extremely abnormal week like this one from happening again so hopefully this is behind up.

Part of the problem is that he is in a unique position, perhaps because rushing stats are overvalued for the QB position. Stobie has tweaked QB scoring passed on pure passers, and he has the only pure rushing QB, who also happens to be on a roster with a passer that he can swap in when he wants to pass.

Originally posted by Cuivienen
I wish I could go back and check, but I believe his score average was in the 50s which I would think would be a little high if there should have been a zero in there with so little games so far this season to pull that zero up with an average.

And I am pretty sure you calculate salary based on rounded score average.

yea it was in the 50s.. I mean I picked his QB and I was upset a little when I saw what happened but it is what it is. I think people are making a bigger deal out of this than it should be. But since such a big deal was made out of it, it pretty much ensures that it wont happened again.



Thanks stobie for making some changes to help prevent future misunderstanding/shenanigans



fwiw I think Spas has the right to do what he did, it was just unfortunate it happened on the week it did.

His previous 0 was in a league game. Is Stobie only using ladder games to populate the data? That's all that shows up in the history over there in fantasy.

And Cuiv, all you've done ITT is hurl insults at me, so you can go **** yourself as far as I'm concerned.

I'd suggest you avoid any competitive activities so you don't constantly need to be handed a rape blanket.

One fix:

On your roster you choose a 'sub' at every position (QB/HB/WR/TE/K). If the your main selection doesn't play (or whatever the cutoff is- say fewer than 10 plays) - your sub is inserted into your roster.

Sub must be a salary hit equal to or less than lowest value at that position on your roster.


If you have WR1 @ 6650, WR2 @ 5847 then your sub must be salary hit 5847 or less.


Bummer that it will require some coding - but shouldn't that remove the possibility of trolling?


Problem isn't with what spas did - problem is that a game open to trolling isn't going to last very long imo.

Ok, this post is too juicy, so imma bite:

Originally posted by Xars
I play on Wall Street. For real money.

I work on Wall Street. My office address is literally a number, followed by "Wall St," followed by New York, NY. It's cute that you do a little day trading though. Not sure where you find the time if you are the CEO of a hot tech start up in the Valley though.


Originally posted by Xars
My job was to get that type of information. Everyone's is.

If you worked on Wall Street instead of played on Wall Street, you would understand the insider trading laws and why they exist. For most of my career, I haven't been able to buy any equities other than mutual funds because, being a person and as you already sort of got right, my job, while not to "get" that type of information, involved the possession and use of that type of information for the benefit of the people that shared it with me, which legally excluded me from turning around and benefitting from it on the side to the detriment of others. To play it safe, which is the reasonable thing to do and what my better colleagues would do, I didn't touch a single company stock explicitly so I could never be accused of insider trading and put my reputation, career, wealth and freedom at risk.


Originally posted by Xars
You really need to stop acting like this is the exception in everyone's normal everyday life.

You really need to stop acting like the game of fantasy sports is not set up for the massively overwhelming majority of players that have no influence on sports team management or athlete performance, and so controls for the tiny minority that don't fit that profile aren't built in to the standard model. And you really need to stop acting like the problem of inside information or influence is not already an acknowledged problem in fantasy sports (see various lawsuits pending against Draft Kings and Fan Duel) or when money is involved in sports (see the Black Sox and Pete Rose).


Originally posted by Xars
Why did that Shopping Center get built down the street from you?
Or that new highway?
Or the Restaurant you enjoy going to?
Ever use Facebook?
Snapchat?
Uber?

I don't even know what the hell you are even trying to say here. Are you claiming that all businesses operate on the back of criminal activity? Are you a Bernie supporter or something?


Originally posted by Xars
Really, how do you think things happen in this world?

Show me your everyday life and I'll probably be able to show you 100 different ways people used influence/knowledge/etc. to get an advantage that effects your day. The fact that you don't realize it is a you problem.

The only thing I don't realise is what a "you problem" is.