Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Rob.
Couldn't stop what? A slam? Who goes into a game saying I need to stop a certain inside rush? If it was that easy I would just middle overload.

It's easier to get consistent yardage from inside rushes out of everything except GL due to the defense having to compensate for the outside rush threat. Goal line is still good in short yardage due to most DC's not ever using Middle Overload vs Goal line and being able to use goal line off tackle as an inside rush...but otherwise goal line is not very sexy.

thats exactly my point you dont have that issue with goal line, its plug in a inside defense and rip goal line. underline part is my point the last few pages but yet bhall denies it yet I now have a second voice saying the same thing i am

Originally posted by Rob.
Although I am wondering if goal line defense is viable now.

nope not at all dont even experiment

Yeah sorry. At this point I don't even know what you guys are arguing about anymore. I definitely don't lose sleep over goal line formation though.

Originally posted by USC_Trojans
thats exactly my point you dont have that issue with goal line, its plug in a inside defense and rip goal line.

So your point is that 3 and 4 ypc is shit despite the defense knowing the run is inside?

Originally posted by USC_Trojans
underline part is my point the last few pages but yet bhall denies it yet I now have a second voice saying the same thing i am



Wow, you sure backed out of that argument quick.

Originally posted by Rob.
but otherwise goal line is not very sexy.

It looked pretty sexy in WCWs game today...

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/168487

But dat loldefense....

Originally posted by bhall43


Wow, you sure backed out of that argument quick.

Originally posted by USC_Trojans
these numbers dont really show much without really knowing the teams these guys are going up against for example QB Wolves invented sex has only seen two well know coordinators (xars and dreg) and put up a 3.63 ypc in those two games combined. Rushing teams took a pretty big hit from this as it basically ripped two staple plays from their playbook. GA is definitely feeling it because it affected our ability to run inside and off tackles out of GL with 0 outside protection which used to be a staple of the offense. It hasnt destroyed GA but has definitely made things more difficult.
Thats all the way back on page 1
Originally posted by bhall43
So your point is that 3 and 4 ypc is shit despite the defense knowing the run is inside?
3-4 is pathetic when i can get 6-7 somewhere else. But i guess thats why run defense isnt in the top 5, you accept medicore results as good enough.

Originally posted by USC_Trojans

3-4 is pathetic when i can get 6-7 somewhere else. But i guess thats why run defense isnt in the top 5, you accept medicore results as good enough.

You taking pot shots at my run defense is hilarious. You used buzz blitz's against QCBC.

And the point still escapes you. 3-4 ypc from GL is everyone charging the middle. 6-7 yards everywhere else is people not charging the middle. One set of ypc is an average of the best defenses coming at it. The other isn't. I will let you decide from here which is which.

Originally posted by bhall43
You taking pot shots at my run defense is hilarious. You used buzz blitz's against QCBC.

And the point still escapes you. 3-4 ypc from GL is everyone charging the middle. 6-7 yards everywhere else is people not charging the middle. One set of ypc is an average of the best defenses coming at it. The other isn't. I will let you decide from here which is which.

Who cares what defense is thrown at what, 6 yards will always be better than 3. As for queen city they run a ton of counters and sweeps, i was going for the agresssive play. and if you want to play that game, how bout losing twice to a team i had on auto pilot all year (honey badgers)

Originally posted by USC_Trojans
Who cares what defense is thrown at what, 6 yards will always be better than 3. As for queen city they run a ton of counters and sweeps, i was going for the agresssive play. and if you want to play that game, how bout losing twice to a team i had on auto pilot all year (honey badgers)

Sorry but that's the wrong argument.

GL formation is designed to get 1, maybe 2 yards with higher consistency vs. the other formations.

So the average for GL should be lower than the other formations, but the 95% confidence interval around that average should be much, much tighter.

Running GL and expecting 3-4+ ypc average isn't realistic. It was for a while in this sim, but it's been changed to more like real football (not exact). That's not a bad thing.

Originally posted by USC_Trojans
Who cares what defense is thrown at what, 6 yards will always be better than 3. As for queen city they run a ton of counters and sweeps, i was going for the agresssive play. and if you want to play that game, how bout losing twice to a team i had on auto pilot all year (honey badgers)

I really don't care who I lose to in a season where I lose more games than I win. Pick a game. I shut down MN as well as anyone did all season with 90% of my defense at 0-10 chemistry. That was about all I could take away from last season. Then again it wasn't like my defense had anything to do with losing to HB and we are 100x better offensively this season.

As for not caring about what defense is thrown at what. That is a pretty poor argument that all the dives and slams are better than the GL plays.

2WR QB rollout strong side/weakside as outside runs, 2WR HB up middle, S* QB, S* HB, set to 50% inside 50% outside, close offensive play books/tactics and focus on defense. Will win you 90%+ of games

Originally posted by HayRow
2WR QB rollout strong side/weakside as outside runs, 2WR HB up middle, S* QB, S* HB, set to 50% inside 50% outside, close offensive play books/tactics and focus on defense. Will win you 90%+ of games

Yeah...except the important games, thats the thing.

Originally posted by peeti
Yeah...except the important games, thats the thing.

if you have a good defense you should be okay

Originally posted by HayRow
if you have a good defense you should be okay

Ok? Sure. But Again, you would never win the Big games

Originally posted by peeti
Ok? Sure. But Again, you would never win the Big games

of course you could. why would you assume you couldn't, a lot would depend on when the plays got called at the 50% clip, but if things went right and you ran outside right when they had defense in for left etc. you could absolutely win with a good defense