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Originally posted by Corndog
How so?

If the three way tie breaker is what determines the "best team" of the three, is the second team not the second best team?

Shouldn't it get the second best team?

What if the division winner is the worst of the 3 in the event of a 3-way tie? Does that mean that they won't qualify?

i.e.

Division A
Team A: 10-4 (3-way tie 0-2)

Division B
Team B: 12-2

Division C
Team C: 14-0
Team D: 10-4 (3-way tie 2-1)
Team E: 10-4 (3-way tie 2-1)

In the above scenario you would get the Division winners from B & C going through (as the top 2) and then the 2 teams from Division C as the third and fourth ranked team.

That's why the Division winners need to be taken out of the equation, before the tie-breakers are applied.

Originally posted by Welsh76
What if the division winner is the worst of the 3 in the event of a 3-way tie? Does that mean that they won't qualify?

Are they last within the scope of the division? If so, yeah they won't win the division.

Originally posted by Corndog
Are they last within the scope of the division? If so, yeah they won't win the division.

I've edited it to show my example, the above scenario nearly happened last season.

Originally posted by Welsh76
I've edited it to show my example, the above scenarion nearly happened last season.

Not sure how your example changes anything.

Originally posted by Corndog
Not sure how your example changes anything.

That the Division A winner fails to make the playoffs; is that correct?

Originally posted by Welsh76
That the Division A winner fails to make the playoffs; is that correct?

How does he fail to make the playoffs?

Yer Welsh you are confusing me, surely that's a 2 way tie. The division winner is division winner, what does that have to do anything between the other two?

Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
Yer Welsh you are confusing me, surely that's a 2 way tie. The division winner is division winner, what does that have to do anything between the other two?

Mainly scope.

The scope of division winners is the division.

The scope of wild card is the league.

Division winner picks whoever wins the division. Wild card picks whoever the highest team in the league is that didn't win their division.

Exactly so in the scenario welsh picked its only a 2 way tie? As its only a matter of deciding the wildcard.

The only "oddity" is that a wild card team might somehow be ranked higher in the league than the division winner in a three way tie.

There's never an instance of a division winner not winning the division, that's kind of just silly talk.

Originally posted by Corndog
How does he fail to make the playoffs?

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, the Division A winner is now being dragged into a 3-way tie-breaker with the 2 other teams and therefore could be pushed to the bottom (and ranked #5).

Does it determine the Division winners first then decide the wildcard from the remaining teams?

If it does then surely the tie-breakers need to be determined from the remaining teams?

Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
Yer Welsh you are confusing me, surely that's a 2 way tie. The division winner is division winner, what does that have to do anything between the other two?

There was an issue last season where they were still included in a 3-way tie; the wrong team made the playoffs because of it.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5173474

Why was this a 3-way tie then?

Originally posted by peeti
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5173474

Why was this a 3-way tie then?

Because three teams had the same record.

Originally posted by Corndog
The only "oddity" is that a wild card team might somehow be ranked higher in the league than the division winner in a three way tie.

There's never an instance of a division winner not winning the division, that's kind of just silly talk.

The oddity is that a team already qualified is being used in a Tie-breaker scenario; I've never known anything like this.

It may be "working as intended" but only if the intent was to be incorrect by all known tie-breaker systems.

Originally posted by Corndog
The only "oddity" is that a wild card team might somehow be ranked higher in the league than the division winner in a three way tie.

There's never an instance of a division winner not winning the division, that's kind of just silly talk.

I get that the 3-way tie "should" produce the better team for the playoffs, but it'd be considerably less confusing for folks if it were just the 2-way tiebreaker between the two teams competing for the wildcard.

In any event, good to have more details on how/why it works the way it does currently.

Now go fix Coverage Commander!