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Galithor
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Originally posted by TDiddy8701
you threw it 76 times for only 6.3 ypa


lol, tell ya what tdiddy, open up for scrims, let me put in my blitz buster playbook, and I'll send you another scrim tomorrow when clevelands back on a high contract.

We just beat the best team in the game in a scrimmage. I don't recall any other season two teams ever beating DD.
 
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who cares about standing out, I want a guy that can catch a 10 yard pass in coverage on an important 3rd down

I think people that have a "swing for the fences" mentality typically get their butts handed to them on here
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
stop saying its overpowered. It has nothing to do with the power. You passed for 40%.


and yet, put up 35 points on Djibouti. No way that should be doable throwing 40%. I'll use broken instead of overpowered if it makes you feel better though.
 
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Originally posted by TDiddy8701
who cares about standing out, I want a guy that can catch a 10 yard pass in coverage on an important 3rd down

I think people that have a "swing for the fences" mentality typically get their butts handed to them on here


You aren't understanding this very clearly. But I get what you mean. However there won't be a huge difference between the two in terms of making that play. Just in that Barry Allen might take that 10 yards and make it 50 instead of just 10.
Edited by bhall43 on May 12, 2014 17:03:03
 
Xavori
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Originally posted by TDiddy8701
you threw it 76 times for only 6.3 ypa


We're not testing YPA or anything other than the fact CB's are broken. For that it doesn't matter how a game turns out or what any total stat is. What matters is on an individual play can a CB cover a WR. Just focus on that, and nothing else.

And when you do that, you see that, no, CB's cannot cover WR's on go routes which means unless something else happens to interfere with the pass, or a DC sells out to protect against those routes, the game is going to get really ugly sometime around game 4 or 5 when people start figuring out the right plays to exploit zero-speed-turning CB's. Then about midseason when everyone else has stolen those pass plays, the game becomes kinda pointless.

'Course, I think the maize canine will find a fix before the season starts.

 
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Originally posted by Xavori
*rolls eyes*

From my "rookie countdown" earlier today:

Speaking of WR's, why are there so many seasoned WR's who are really fast, but can't catch? Here I am just looking for a good possession guy, but all I see are Barry Allen wannabes. Have there really been that many lightning strikes going through windows, hitting random chemicals on a shelf, and splattering all over WR's?

Now, don't make me sick a Speed Force fueled Professor Zoom and/or Superboy-Prime on you...


Because you are looking at Rookie.

You need 50+ Receiving skills to catch the ball well in rookie.

You still need 50+ Receiving skills to catch the ball in Vet.

So you build your Barry Allan by starting with a possession WR build, but then switching to speed after the hands skills are in place.

Your Barry Allan clones aren't going to make an impact in S1, they are going to make an impact in S4-9.
 
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Xavori I totally agree with you, but don't say PASSING is overpowered. It's a coverage flaw, not an OP passing flaw
Edited by TDiddy8701 on May 12, 2014 17:05:32
 
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Because you are looking at Rookie.

You need 50+ Receiving skills to catch the ball well in rookie.

You still need 50+ Receiving skills to catch the ball in Vet.

So you build your Barry Allan by starting with a possession WR build, but then switching to speed after the hands skills are in place.

Your Barry Allan clones aren't going to make an impact in S1, they are going to make an impact in S4-9.


I'm gonna hafta smack you, aren't I?

I was looking for a seasoned WR. I stuck that in my "rookie update" because the whole idea of a rookie update at this point is silly, and hence, nothing in my "rookie update" actually had anything to do with rookies.

The reason I quoted it was to serve as a further example that yes, I do in fact know who Barry Allen is. In fact, I dated his sister for a while. She's a supermodel, but only up in Canada so you prolly haven't heard of her.
 
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Barry Allen was "The Flash". Well... one of them. The second one and also the fastest of the them according to nerds who are in the know.


Of course as I built the original Barry, my Barry 2.0 can't be Barry Allen, so I built Barry Dylan (aka Barry from Archer).
 
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Originally posted by Galithor
and yet, put up 35 points on Djibouti. No way that should be doable throwing 40%. I'll use broken instead of overpowered if it makes you feel better though.


fwiw I think a large reason as to why you passed in such a low % has a good bit to do with surrendering the run game. But I don't think its omg to think you put up 35 points throwing all day on Djibouti's base defense. The under routes are played a ton better now which was the real stupid part about the game last season. We all know what is broken about the deep routes right now. As does Corndog.
 
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Originally posted by TDiddy8701
Xavori I totally agree with you, but don't say PASSING is overpowered. It's a coverage flaw, not an OP passing flaw


The best team in the game got beat by a team a tier lower and you don't think that the exploit that makes that possible is a wee bit overpowered?
 
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what has changed in the passing game? notta

what has changed in coverage? a lot



therefor, it's a coverage issue with the changes, not OP passing, I don't know how much easier I can spell it out. Coverage has got worse (in some ways), passing hasn't gotten "better". If people are going to complain about the changes, at least use the right terminology.
Edited by TDiddy8701 on May 12, 2014 17:12:16
Edited by TDiddy8701 on May 12, 2014 17:11:39
Edited by TDiddy8701 on May 12, 2014 17:10:10
 
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Originally posted by Galithor
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/56794

like I said, don't be so sure its not overpowered


I didn't think your offense was overpowered at all, I got aggravated at the CBs dancing but over all we did pretty well vs the pass. Offensively we just couldn't stay consistent at all, we haven't had that many drops since rookie or sophomore season I would guess. The outside zone blitzs worked great for some reason on my outside blocking, my guys would cut up field to look for someone instead of the blitzing CB off the edge. I'd be lying to say that I didn't expect to win with ease though, thats basically the same gameplan I've ran against everyone else.
 
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Oh, and running a QTR Man Base play vs 2/3 WR sets is very bugged. The CB will just backpedal to the sideline nearly everytime.
 
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Originally posted by TDiddy8701
what has changed in the passing game? notta

what has changed in coverage? a lot



therefor, it's a coverage issue with the changes, not OP passing, I don't know how much easier I can spell it out. Coverage has got worse (in some ways), passing hasn't gotten "better". If people are going to complain about the changes, at least use the right terminology.


Yeah, it has a lot more to do with the QB getting to throw early because the men are uncovered. The passing isn't better, but the results are the equivalent.
 
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