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Well besides you guys being full of shit, I know for a fact you guys played that much when you were learning and doing scouting for the first times (or at least attempting it)...

Sure NOW you can spend a couple hours and get it done... but if you seriously wanna lie be my guest...

5-6 was meant as a hyperbole anyway.

Originally posted by iStoner
Well besides you guys being full of shit, I know for a fact you guys played that much when you were learning and doing scouting for the first times (or at least attempting it)...

Sure NOW you can spend a couple hours and get it done... but if you seriously wanna lie be my guest...

5-6 was meant as a hyperbole anyway.

Well, you were talking about now, so I answered in the present tense...

Don't get me wrong, back, before greasemonkey scripts and before Bort put in scouting, I was a GLB junky, putting in a good 6 hours a day trying to figure out how everything worked, been here sincw S2. Hell, I got fired from a 30K/yr job because I was GLB-ing more than working (X-Mas eve to be exact). That's the reason I haven't hammered down with the DC duties as much because I know how much time it takes out of a day to do it right.

I'm sure ZMJ & others take much less time cause they have most things already i n place as far as their AI's, but I don't have the time to get it set up...thats why I said it could be the 3rd reason people don't take on the OC/DC jobs.

Originally posted by iStoner
Here are a list of the things I think prevent people from taking the step up in coordinator quality:
1) Difficult to recruit (Most people can't afford to make their own team, and its impossible to recruit in peewee right now)
2) Lack of competition (Lets be honest, why bother to study and game plan when you can cruise control QB sweeps and go 10-2)

That is it.
1 & 2 are both because everyone wants to own their own team, yet as you say, they don't want to make all of their own players coz they can't afford it ...so why own a team guys?

Originally posted by iStoner
Both 1 and 2 are very easily solved be reducing the number of Silver leagues.

that is just speculation! ...most agents that make players and are prepared to spend flexies, either want to remain in peewee, or they want to build players up to the higher lvl leagues! ...If they want to move up to the higher leagues, then there no point in being competitive in peewee! ...if they want to remain in peewee, then they usually buy their own team eventually and then would be faced the same dilemma of recruiting if they are not prepared to create the players themselves! ...it basically comes down to who are the big spenders! ...who are prepared to spend a lot for a season in peewee and a whole bunch of one and done players! ...we don't have enough of them in peewee and I don't blame agents for that! ...this game is still way too expensive for agents to have many players to build and boost and custom EQ for a bunch of one and done players for teams that aren't even theirs! ...there is not enough interest in GLB for prices to be so high! ...I think that it would prolly be better for bort to reinvent this game and make it so that everyone is a team owner for one and done players that come with the team when purchased!

Originally posted by iStoner
I don't see how facing Gold coordinators in Silver in any way demotes someones ability to improve on the game, if anything it forces them to face at least 1 ass beating which hopefully will let them know (if they watch the game) that their cruise control tactics aren't the way to go.


ok then ...well I don't see why teams with gold coordinators need to boost every player on silver teams either, but that is usually the case and has a lot to do with why the silver leagues are not so competitive also!

your just whining at this point, you lost all notion of making sense long ago.

You really think having less teams wouldn't make recruiting easier?... that is just plain ignorant... or as I said... just your way of justifying bitch pissing and moaning.

Originally posted by iStoner
your just whining at this point, you lost all notion of making sense long ago.

You really think having less teams wouldn't make recruiting easier?... that is just plain ignorant... or as I said... just your way of justifying bitch pissing and moaning.

hey where did I whine in my above reply?!? ...I was just dispelling your argument!

...being ignorant is suggesting that I am not making sense with nothing but speculation to back it up!

You are whining... end of story...

it is not speculation to say that less total teams=easier recruiting... it is also not speculation to say that less teams would obviously mean more competition, since the "good" teams would be less spread out... it is not speculation to say that playing more good teams is going to make people either get better at the game because they are sick of losing... or they just weren't ever going to get better.

You saying something is speculation doesn't make it any less true... you've not dispelled anything... your just whining because you choose not to boost anymore and your sick of losing... wahhh wahhh wahhh

I don't care.

you are dumb ...end of story!

I'm dumb? okay... good argument... try making a point rather than just saying mine is wrong?

As a newb Silver league Owner I can identify with alot of what ManOgwaR is saying - it would be ideal if there wasn't so much cross-over between Gold league and Silver League in terms of owners/Co-ords.

The situation in Gold league 'sounds' incestuous, I say 'sounds' because I don't have any direct access to it - other than this forum.

I can't speak for others, but i've found the only way to really learn how to be good at something is to take the time to study it and immerse yourself (within reason)

It seems obvious to me to build a whole roster of players - see how they interact at this level and then make adjustments as I go.

I fully expect an ass-whooping in the post-season because, even though my team has done well this year, it hasn't beaten the elite teams in the league - and thats BEFORE they implement their post-season AI.

I'll take the time to watch the replays play-by-play - then I watch the play-by-play of more successful teams - then i'll compare and adjust.

So, yes I think its a bit 'rich' of these Gold Co-ords/Owners to be skulking around Silver league's (esp when they have such contempt for the competition as to call it lolsilver) acting like the playground bully and to then complain about the lack of viable opposition.

I'm the type to stick around and see all of this as a challenge - others, well maybe not so much.

Maybe thats a lack of patience/tenacity on their behalf - its probably irrelevant if its killing the Pee-Wee game.

I agree, ESB (great name, btw). IMO, Gold coordinators calling it "lolsilver" or even "lolcopper" is probably doing more to kill pee-wee than gold people playing on extra teams in silver.

if it's straight competition, then people's skills will improve and the overall level of play gets better. but if you run them out of the league with ridicule and contempt every time you beat them, then you are just shooting yourself in the foot.

gold is harder than silver and silver is harder than copper, but it's supposed to be that way and people shouldn't be rubbing anybody's faces in it.

although, sometimes it can be entertaining: i remember EDB calling my first Farmersville team an "lolcopper" team, as he picked up coordinating privileges on like 3 or 4 teams in that league. despite the boosting and CE advantages "his" teams had over my no/no "lolcopper" squad, we won every match and took home both tropheys in that league. he then blamed it on "bad builds" and threatened us that his silver team would kill us. the next season he showed up on at least one team in all 8 silver leagues, including our league, but by the 2nd or 3rd game of the season he was MIA... if he was worth a shit, he would have destroyed us with even a partial yes/yes advantage...and if I owned a team and rolled 55 players and some gold "jock" stepped in, blew our shot at a trophey and then bad-mouthed my builds I woulda cut his ass off the team faster than stoner can post a reply to something he didn't read or understand....

but back to the point...i'm not trying to be a big P/C advocate or anything like this...these are forums after all and i believe this game is more entertaining with trash talk...but lets not take it so far that we run people out of pee-wee

This was basically my first season as a coordinator, Season 18 Kickin' Bass. As you can see we beat some teams, and also got our ass kicked against others. I didn't complain, just drove me to get better.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=18&team_id=6804

After S18, I sold the Kickin' Bass and bought a team in Silver #7 because there was simply just better teams there so I could get better through competition. This was S19 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=19&team_id=6934 As you can see we played alot of great teams and came out with some quality wins....because I was getting better by playing better opponents.

S20 came along. http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=20&team_id=6934 Again high quality competition helped me learn a bit more.
Edit: Forgot to add that I OC'd for about 3/4 of the season for TP in S20 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=20&team_id=6880

I firmly agree that competition will be make you better.

Originally posted by Empire_Strikes_Back
As a newb Silver league Owner I can identify with alot of what ManOgwaR is saying - it would be ideal if there wasn't so much cross-over between Gold league and Silver League in terms of owners/Co-ords.

The situation in Gold league 'sounds' incestuous, I say 'sounds' because I don't have any direct access to it - other than this forum.

I can't speak for others, but i've found the only way to really learn how to be good at something is to take the time to study it and immerse yourself (within reason)

It seems obvious to me to build a whole roster of players - see how they interact at this level and then make adjustments as I go.

I fully expect an ass-whooping in the post-season because, even though my team has done well this year, it hasn't beaten the elite teams in the league - and thats BEFORE they implement their post-season AI.

I'll take the time to watch the replays play-by-play - then I watch the play-by-play of more successful teams - then i'll compare and adjust.

So, yes I think its a bit 'rich' of these Gold Co-ords/Owners to be skulking around Silver league's (esp when they have such contempt for the competition as to call it lolsilver) acting like the playground bully and to then complain about the lack of viable opposition.

I'm the type to stick around and see all of this as a challenge - others, well maybe not so much.

Maybe thats a lack of patience/tenacity on their behalf - its probably irrelevant if its killing the Pee-Wee game.



nomination for next gold coordinator!!!

I can't commit the time to prepare and game plan on both sides of the ball anymore to be a top level gold team. My player builds have not been top notch for lack of effort too.

Originally posted by DirtyMike
I can't commit the time to prepare and game plan on both sides of the ball anymore to be a top level gold team. My player builds have not been top notch for lack of effort too.

Yeah those are generally bad combinations.......