Warrior General Games

Originally posted by kurieg
Originally posted by taurran

Example:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1340996&pbp_id=10749003
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1340996&pbp_id=10749844
etc

So in this case, the DC should tag the blocking TE and just cover the 3 WRs + HB with 8?

I guess they need to flex some coverers in case the TE actually runs a route.

Guess this could make somewhat "balanced" TEs more worthwhile. I'm kinda wondering if any TE that doesn't gear Strength can handle the inevitable matchup with the RDE.

I'd love if a DC did that.

Originally posted by StoutOne DTD
Oh wait, the offense usually wins that matchup....who's the real exploiter here?

Not anymore, really.

The exploit is that there's no way for an offense to adjust to it mid-game. If a team doesn't plan for it, it will happen time after time after time.

Originally posted by taurran
Not anymore, really.

The exploit is that there's no way for an offense to adjust to it mid-game. If a team doesn't plan for it, it will happen time after time after time.

I only refer to last season. I can't be bothered to watch preseason relplays, thats nonsense.

Originally posted by StoutOne DTD
If that's a glitch or exploit to blitz 6 against 5 blockers succesfully, then sending 8 back for coverage against 5 receivers is a huge exploit!

what is a "glitch" about blitzing is that the offensive line never deviates from their blocking assignments. If you send the TE and HB out on a route, the LB always runs free when the LOT moves outside to pick up the RDE.

Someone should run free when you send more pass rushers than there are blockers. It probably shouldn't always be the same dot....occasionally it might be nice if the OLine picked up the biggest threat...or even if the OLine blocking assignments weren't hard coded, so that some of the time the LT might pick up the blitzing ROLB if no other blocker was available and sometimes they might pick up the RDE.

That's not likely to happen though. And until then it will be an "exploit" blitz. If you don't want to "exploit", just send a 3 man rush with 8 in coverage and play it safe.

Since you guys think if a defense sends six and the offense only has 5 to block it should be an auto sack, does that mean 5wr sets the qb should never release the ball?

Originally posted by kurieg
So in this case, the DC should tag the blocking TE and just cover the 3 WRs + HB with 8?

I guess they need to flex some coverers in case the TE actually runs a route.

Guess this could make somewhat "balanced" TEs more worthwhile. I'm kinda wondering if any TE that doesn't gear Strength can handle the inevitable matchup with the RDE.

actually, I'd argue that if an offense was predictable enough to always use a certain blocker as a pass blocker, you could tag him for the 7 on 6 blitz. A little more risk, but the same stuff happens.

Originally posted by Dpride59
Since you guys think if a defense sends six and the offense only has 5 to block it should be an auto sack, does that mean 5wr sets the qb should never release the ball?



only if you are doing it right.

Doesn't matter which one the LOT picks up to me....if he catches the LB then I have a WL MVP at RDE that will do the job.

Originally posted by jdros13
only if you are doing it right.

lol

Symptoms of a leveling spirit.

Originally posted by StoutOne DTD
Doesn't matter which one the LOT picks up to me....if he catches the LB then I have a WL MVP at RDE that will do the job.

I agree. It wouldn't be an insta-sack though. Could slide protection and leave the NT free too imo.

This is not difficult to counter offensively though. You need to actually do something as an OC, but it really isn't difficult, just sucks if you plan for one thing to happen and then they use a different defense against you. How this became a 9+ page thread is not clear.

Originally posted by jdros13
I agree. It wouldn't be an insta-sack though. Could slide protection and leave the NT free too imo.

This is not difficult to counter offensively though. You need to actually do something as an OC, but it really isn't difficult, just sucks if you plan for one thing to happen and then they use a different defense against you. How this became a 9+ page thread is not clear.

If the defense sends 6 and there's only 5 to block, if it's a shotgun play the qb should throw to it's 1st progression 9/10 times

Originally posted by Dpride59
If the defense sends 6 and there's only 5 to block, if it's a shotgun play the qb should throw to it's 1st progression 9/10 times

so use plays where the routes aren't all 20 yards downfield.

Originally posted by jdros13
Originally posted by StoutOne DTD

If that's a glitch or exploit to blitz 6 against 5 blockers succesfully, then sending 8 back for coverage against 5 receivers is a huge exploit!

what is a "glitch" about blitzing is that the offensive line never deviates from their blocking assignments. If you send the TE and HB out on a route, the LB always runs free when the LOT moves outside to pick up the RDE.

Someone should run free when you send more pass rushers than there are blockers. It probably shouldn't always be the same dot....occasionally it might be nice if the OLine picked up the biggest threat...or even if the OLine blocking assignments weren't hard coded, so that some of the time the LT might pick up the blitzing ROLB if no other blocker was available and sometimes they might pick up the RDE.

That's not likely to happen though. And until then it will be an "exploit" blitz. If you don't want to "exploit", just send a 3 man rush with 8 in coverage and play it safe.

actually blocking inside-out would be a nice SIM improvement so would vision checks to slide protection and have the QB roll out a bit to the protection side to 'buy' an extra second or so

Originally posted by jdros13
so use plays where the routes aren't all 20 yards downfield.

Which would be cool if you set a certain progression...and the QB recognizes blitz and throws to the short guy in solo coverage. But that doesnt happen. He goes through the certain progressions you made pre game and might not ever even look at that dude.