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taurran
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Hard to compare these fighters.

GSP is just a takedown beast right now. He's quick enough to shoot that his oppenents can't stay on their feet, and once on the ground they expend so much energy trying to recover that they wear themselves out and that's just where his conditioning takes over.

Anderson Silva is just amazing in the standup game. The guy has the reflexes of a cat and some power behind his punches/kicks for such a small frame. His ground fighting game is notable as well, but good luck getting him there.

You all DO realize that Anderson Silva is a natural Light Heavyweight? He cut 15+ lbs just to drop down and get the Middleweight title, and he competes in both classes. For this reason, I don't see GSP, a welterweight, coming up and basically fighting a fighter that's two weight classes above him.

If the fight ever did go down, I'd call it in Silva's favor. He's bigger, with a longer reach that he knows how to utilize, and is fast enough to keep GSP from shooting and taking him down. I'd say Silva would utilize his reach and agility to KO GSP in the first three rounds.
 
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Originally posted by Phil Jackson
Machida will fuck shit up


Anderson Silva would tear him up. Machida may be the most elusive fighter in UFC history, but Silva is just as elusive with power too boot, and has a much stronger ground game.

Silva said that he wouldn't fight Machida because he was his friend. But, I think if Silva continues to dominate Middleweight, and if White sees money in it, it will eventually happen.
Edited by taurran on Mar 30, 2010 07:16:10
 
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Nba jamz?
 
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Originally posted by jamz
Nba jamz?

GLB posters are getting too predictable.
 
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Nba jamz?

GLB posters are getting too predictable.


How did I know you'd say that?

 
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Originally posted by taurran

You all DO realize that Anderson Silva is a natural Light Heavyweight? He cut 15+ lbs just to drop down and get the Middleweight title, and he competes in both classes. For this reason, I don't see GSP, a welterweight, coming up and basically fighting a fighter that's two weight classes above him.



And GSP is a natural Middleweight. He walks around at ~190 and cuts the same amount of weight to fight WW that Silva does to make MW. A lot of fighters cut a ridiculous amount of weight to make the cut (see Anthony Johnson, Brock Lesnar).
 
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Originally posted by boomer82
Originally posted by taurran


You all DO realize that Anderson Silva is a natural Light Heavyweight? He cut 15+ lbs just to drop down and get the Middleweight title, and he competes in both classes. For this reason, I don't see GSP, a welterweight, coming up and basically fighting a fighter that's two weight classes above him.



And GSP is a natural Middleweight. He walks around at ~190 and cuts the same amount of weight to fight WW that Silva does to make MW. A lot of fighters cut a ridiculous amount of weight to make the cut (see Anthony Johnson, Brock Lesnar).


Pretty sure GSP has fought as a Welterweight for his entire MMA career. I believe his first loss to Matt Hughes was as a Welterweight.
 
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Originally posted by taurran
Pretty sure GSP has fought as a Welterweight for his entire MMA career. I believe his first loss to Matt Hughes was as a Welterweight.


GSP has always been a WW, he's a pretty big WW but not the biggest. Alves had at least 20lbs on him during their fight.

15+ lbs isn't very much. Most of these guys will do 4-5lbs in water on the last day. So you're talking about a guy that loses ~10lbs from the start of camp to the weigh in day. I'd say that would put him in the bottom 3rd in terms of amount they cut.

I know Nate Marquardt does about the same and he's at a lower bodyfat % than most of the human race.

I think a GSP / Silva fight is more probable than Silva moving up. The light heavy weight division is full of awesome fights. Welter's best fight might be a GSP Fitch rematch. It needs a super fight more than LHW.
 
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Originally posted by taurran
Pretty sure GSP has fought as a Welterweight for his entire MMA career. I believe his first loss to Matt Hughes was as a Welterweight.


That has nothing to do with his 'natural' weight. Silva has, fairly recently, competed as a LHW. No GSP hasn't competed as a MW, but he naturally is that size, the same as Silva is naturally a LHW.
 
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Originally posted by boomer82
That has nothing to do with his 'natural' weight. Silva has, fairly recently, competed as a LHW. No GSP hasn't competed as a MW, but he naturally is that size, the same as Silva is naturally a LHW.


GSP says he walks around at 190-195. I've heard Silva walks around at about 200lbs. They aren't the same weight, but they're close enough to make a fight of it. It might be the year end fight or the Superbowl weekend fight. GSP has cleaned out his division, there is no one else for him to fight.
 
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Originally posted by supbro
GSP says he walks around at 190-195. I've heard Silva walks around at about 200lbs. They aren't the same weight, but they're close enough to make a fight of it. It might be the year end fight or the Superbowl weekend fight. GSP has cleaned out his division, there is no one else for him to fight.


Agree. Its silly they keep hyping all these suckers and fools as contenders only to be pretenders and get served a slice of that boomshakalaka pie as they get dunked on like bitches
 
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Originally posted by taurran
Anderson Silva would tear him up. Machida may be the most elusive fighter in UFC history, but Silva is just as elusive with power too boot, and has a much stronger ground game.

Silva said that he wouldn't fight Machida because he was his friend. But, I think if Silva continues to dominate Middleweight, and if White sees money in it, it will eventually happen.


Yeah, MAchida Silva. or Silva GSP needs to happen.
 
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Originally posted by David Stern
Yeah, MAchida Silva. or Silva GSP needs to happen.


Machida already lost to shogun once, after he loses again that division gets really interesting. It doesn't need Silva.
 
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Originally posted by boomer82
Originally posted by taurran

Pretty sure GSP has fought as a Welterweight for his entire MMA career. I believe his first loss to Matt Hughes was as a Welterweight.


That has nothing to do with his 'natural' weight. Silva has, fairly recently, competed as a LHW. No GSP hasn't competed as a MW, but he naturally is that size, the same as Silva is naturally a LHW.




Uh... yes it does. EVERY fighter drops weight for weigh in. When I said "natural" I meant that's what they normally fight at, not that they walk around every day and shop for groceries at that weight.
Edited by taurran on Mar 31, 2010 06:31:30
 
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Originally posted by David Stern
Originally posted by taurran

Anderson Silva would tear him up. Machida may be the most elusive fighter in UFC history, but Silva is just as elusive with power too boot, and has a much stronger ground game.

Silva said that he wouldn't fight Machida because he was his friend. But, I think if Silva continues to dominate Middleweight, and if White sees money in it, it will eventually happen.


Yeah, MAchida Silva. or Silva GSP needs to happen.


I'd guess Machida/Silva would happen first out of those.
 
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