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Originally posted by ib_mr_ed
I am done with this. I guess I have different morals and beliefs than some of you.

My PERSONAL OPINION was that was bullshit and a chickenshit thing to do. I know one person who agrees with me on your team. YOUR OWNER who started a thread about it when it got run on him.

I do not agree with the thinking I HAVE TO DO THIS SO THE TEAM I AM PLAYING DOESN'T DO THIS TO ME.

If neither team decides to RUN THE EXPLOIT in the first place then it would not be the issue.

That is just my 2 cents.



Hell I think its a bullshit offense. I know Outlawz felt bad about doing it. I convinced him it was our best option to win. I can admit that if we wouldn't have run it or chances to win were slim. I could care less what you or anyone else thinks about it. This entire game is about finding an exploit and running with it. Why do you think Bort has to continually nerf builds? People find exploits.

Bottom line is we ran strong I because we knew it is almost impossible to stop. If thats the worst thing I do in my life I think I will be ok.
 
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Originally posted by majech
Originally posted by ClemsonJaguar

Originally posted by ib_mr_ed


Originally posted by Tigerbait0307



Originally posted by majech




Spider Monkeez exploited us. It wouldn't have surprised me, if it weren't for how "opposed" to it they were.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2299715

Remember that? Outlawz called TUC everything but a red-headed step-child for doing the Strong I exploit in a REGULAR SEASON GAME. Looks like Outlawz showed his true colors today. Pretty disappointed to see him do that actually.

Someone said that winning that way would feel better than losing that way. I disagree. Now that I speak from experience, I'd much rather have lost a game like that, than won a game like that.



You ran the ball 47 times. 8 of those 47 runs were out of the I formation. Take a guess what the other 39 were out of?? You guys used the same exploit.

The reason you lost is because you had to settle for FGs instead of TDs when you got in scoring position. Also because your kick coverage was terrible and you got unlucky with one turnover.

I can understand your frustration but the Strong I is not the only reason you lost.


How about we break down the numbers so you can understand them RETARD. You should not come on here saying things that are in no way true. Did we run the strong I play (yes everyone does). Was that the ONLY THING WE DID ON OFFESNE! Hell no. I think the # speak for themselves.

Bugeaters
80 total plays, 47 rush, 33 pass
Strong I Plays 38 rushes, 15 passes
53% of our offense was something other than strong I runs


Angola Douche Bags
54 total plays, 48 rush, 6 pass
Strong I plays 40 rushes, 0 passes
75% of their offense was Strong I runs

We could have lined up and fucking jammed the strong I down their throat like they did to us and like Ghana did to SLS. BuT we didn't.

I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR ANY TEAM THAT DOES THIS PERIOD. It is a piss poor way to win and after the fit that they threw after the Lions game I am amazed that they would do the same thing.




So, we only ran two more plays out of the strong I than yourself. Hmmm, seems like something other than the exploit was the reason you lost the game.


You CLEARLY don't understand percentages. See we ran 83 plays and you ran 54. We ran a run heavy offense, you ran an exploit offense.

Oh don't forget about this genius....http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2299715


And you clearly don't understand that if you had been successful running your 38 plays out of the strong I, you would not have needed the additional plays.
 
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Originally posted by majech
Originally posted by g-bay-be

Originally posted by majech


Originally posted by flip1180



the only reason they ran anything else or threw the ball was because they were loosing!


Showing your stupidity again. We passed quite often in running situations. Check out a 3rd and 0.5 for example...exploit offense is to run Str I in this spot, we passed in this spot.




wait, are you saying it's exploitive to run on 3rd and 0.5?


No, what I'm saying is that if we were running an exploit offense, we clearly would not be passing on 3rd and 0.5.


Actually, if you were a ha;fway decent OC, you woould have run on 3rd and .5 yards. Who the hell throws on that down and distance.
 
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Originally posted by jmr2
I'm on Sierra Leone, and today we lost to a team that ran this power I baloney, and it's tough for me to blame them. They are a lesser team, but they did nothing that was outside of the rules, and it's difficult for me to keep from thinking of the Herman Edwards clip where he emphatically reminds us that YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.

Congrats to Ghana or whoever that team was. Hopefully this is something that gets fixed in the very near future.


Now THIS...is a post I'm 100% in support of.
 
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Originally posted by ib_mr_ed
I am done with this. I guess I have different morals and beliefs than some of you.

My PERSONAL OPINION was that was bullshit and a chickenshit thing to do. I know one person who agrees with me on your team. YOUR OWNER who started a thread about it when it got run on him.

I do not agree with the thinking I HAVE TO DO THIS SO THE TEAM I AM PLAYING DOESN'T DO THIS TO ME.

If neither team decides to RUN THE EXPLOIT in the first place then it would not be the issue.

That is just my 2 cents.



Ah, morality and GLB. Some of you dudes need to get away from your computer and live a bit.
 
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Originally posted by ClemsonJaguar
Originally posted by ib_mr_ed

I am done with this. I guess I have different morals and beliefs than some of you.

My PERSONAL OPINION was that was bullshit and a chickenshit thing to do. I know one person who agrees with me on your team. YOUR OWNER who started a thread about it when it got run on him.

I do not agree with the thinking I HAVE TO DO THIS SO THE TEAM I AM PLAYING DOESN'T DO THIS TO ME.

If neither team decides to RUN THE EXPLOIT in the first place then it would not be the issue.

That is just my 2 cents.



Ah, morality and GLB. Some of you dudes need to get away from your computer and live a bit.


I for one try to have that MORALITY THING in everything I do in my life, but again that is just me.
 
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It isn't worth arguing about anymore. It's clear that there are two very different views that people are taking on all of this stuff and that isn't going to change.

It is what it is. If people want to resort to it, that's their choice. Those of us who believe it to be cheap and will not to resort to it, that is our choice as well.

What sucks is those of us who think it is garbage might as well fold up shop until this is fixed because apparently the Strong I Slam is what this game has devolved in to.
 
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Originally posted by Tigerbait0307
Originally posted by ib_mr_ed

I am done with this. I guess I have different morals and beliefs than some of you.

My PERSONAL OPINION was that was bullshit and a chickenshit thing to do. I know one person who agrees with me on your team. YOUR OWNER who started a thread about it when it got run on him.

I do not agree with the thinking I HAVE TO DO THIS SO THE TEAM I AM PLAYING DOESN'T DO THIS TO ME.

If neither team decides to RUN THE EXPLOIT in the first place then it would not be the issue.

That is just my 2 cents.



Hell I think its a bullshit offense. I know Outlawz felt bad about doing it. I convinced him it was our best option to win. I can admit that if we wouldn't have run it or chances to win were slim. I could care less what you or anyone else thinks about it. This entire game is about finding an exploit and running with it. Why do you think Bort has to continually nerf builds? People find exploits.

Bottom line is we ran strong I because we knew it is almost impossible to stop. If thats the worst thing I do in my life I think I will be ok.


At least someone finally admits to that. That is all we really wanted.
 
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Originally posted by SuperHawks
It isn't worth arguing about anymore. It's clear that there are two very different views that people are taking on all of this stuff and that isn't going to change.

It is what it is. If people want to resort to it, that's their choice. Those of us who believe it to be cheap and will not to resort to it, that is our choice as well.

What sucks is those of us who think it is garbage might as well fold up shop until this is fixed because apparently the Strong I Slam is what this game has devolved in to.


Hmmm I agree 100%, I have been taught by a great owner here in APL, and a great agent...that if it isn't breaking a rule it is ok to use, and we should just stop crying, and recruit and game plan better.....IE: Borg Draft, Getting fined for bringing in half a team to the Coyotes...Maybe I am not as dumb as everyone thinks.

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Originally posted by ib_mr_ed
Originally posted by ClemsonJaguar

Originally posted by ib_mr_ed


I am done with this. I guess I have different morals and beliefs than some of you.

My PERSONAL OPINION was that was bullshit and a chickenshit thing to do. I know one person who agrees with me on your team. YOUR OWNER who started a thread about it when it got run on him.

I do not agree with the thinking I HAVE TO DO THIS SO THE TEAM I AM PLAYING DOESN'T DO THIS TO ME.

If neither team decides to RUN THE EXPLOIT in the first place then it would not be the issue.

That is just my 2 cents.



Ah, morality and GLB. Some of you dudes need to get away from your computer and live a bit.


I for one try to have that MORALITY THING in everything I do in my life, but again that is just me.


So do I see, above....But again I was just a pot stirrer, and whinner.....That happened so long ago let it go Vegas...Funnt how when it hurts other teams (doing things that are not against the rules) makes people think differently.
 
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The funny thing is...after all of these arguments, I have yet to see one that says...it can be stopped. That makes me happy. Keep thinking that way.
 
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Originally posted by SheVegas
Originally posted by SuperHawks

It isn't worth arguing about anymore. It's clear that there are two very different views that people are taking on all of this stuff and that isn't going to change.

It is what it is. If people want to resort to it, that's their choice. Those of us who believe it to be cheap and will not to resort to it, that is our choice as well.

What sucks is those of us who think it is garbage might as well fold up shop until this is fixed because apparently the Strong I Slam is what this game has devolved in to.


Hmmm I agree 100%, I have been taught my a great owner here in APL, and a great agent...that if it isn't breaking a rule it is ok to use, and we should just stop crying, and recruit and game plan better.....IE: Borg Draft, Getting fined for bringing in half a team to the Coyotes...Maybe I am not as dumb as everyone thinks.


aw jeez here we go again.
 
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Originally posted by SheVegas
Originally posted by SuperHawks

It isn't worth arguing about anymore. It's clear that there are two very different views that people are taking on all of this stuff and that isn't going to change.

It is what it is. If people want to resort to it, that's their choice. Those of us who believe it to be cheap and will not to resort to it, that is our choice as well.

What sucks is those of us who think it is garbage might as well fold up shop until this is fixed because apparently the Strong I Slam is what this game has devolved in to.


Hmmm I agree 100%, I have been taught my a great owner here in APL, and a great agent...that if it isn't breaking a rule it is ok to use, and we should just stop crying, and recruit and game plan better.....IE: Borg Draft, Getting fined for bringing in half a team to the Coyotes...Maybe I am not as dumb as everyone thinks.


 
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Originally posted by ress5609
Originally posted by SheVegas

Originally posted by SuperHawks


It isn't worth arguing about anymore. It's clear that there are two very different views that people are taking on all of this stuff and that isn't going to change.

It is what it is. If people want to resort to it, that's their choice. Those of us who believe it to be cheap and will not to resort to it, that is our choice as well.

What sucks is those of us who think it is garbage might as well fold up shop until this is fixed because apparently the Strong I Slam is what this game has devolved in to.


Hmmm I agree 100%, I have been taught my a great owner here in APL, and a great agent...that if it isn't breaking a rule it is ok to use, and we should just stop crying, and recruit and game plan better.....IE: Borg Draft, Getting fined for bringing in half a team to the Coyotes...Maybe I am not as dumb as everyone thinks.


aw jeez here we go again.


Please explain the difference?
 
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Originally posted by killertoad
The funny thing is...after all of these arguments, I have yet to see one that says...it can be stopped. That makes me happy. Keep thinking that way.


This?

Originally posted by Doc_Nilla
...Somehow I get the impression that you think running 100% Strong I Slam = 100% win. Against teams that can't defend it, yes, but that's not all teams.


 
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