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Originally posted by william78
Not like that, while hunger is certainly still a thing - outside of isolated aboriginal tribes like Sentinel Island or in the deep South American rain forest you don't really have anything close even those groups have methods of planting and harvesting some level of crops but that's an aspect we learned. Prior to that it was stricly foraging and we didn't have any ability to grow our own.


https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty

I didn't say people lived exclusively by hunting for small game. I said they try not to starve every winter and absolutely do still hunt for small game, if only to supplement. Hunger is more than "still a thing."
 
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Originally posted by william78
As far as elderly, at least I'm mature enough now not to get so aggrevated with you that I feel like cutting your corndog off the stick. Still remember that tiebreaker in season 4.


I...don't. Sounds intense. Wouldn't be the first threat of bodily harm I've received on this game, though.

Also, audiobooks, the word you're looking for is audiobooks.

Originally posted by william78
Just about everything comes from someone else - that's not really stealing its standing on the shoulders of giants. The people who invented pottery basically enabled farming and its the reason we are all not still roaming the environment looking for small game and trying not to starve to death every winter.


Can't really call it standing on the shoulders of giants when we killed the giants and are standing on top of their dead body. It wasn't much of a collaborative effort.

Religions stole ideas and holidays from religions of the people they conquered, to make it easier to convert and control them, and making the next conquest easier. A lot of sports are the same, adapting an Ancient Mesoamerican blood sport into entertainment after we killed and enslaved most of their population and took all of their land isn't exactly a heroic invention. Even more so when you realize that the people who "adapted" it generally aren't the people's being injured playing it.

And like, I'm not pointing a finger at any particular race or nationality. The history of civilization is basically everyone taking turns consuming each other. Native American tribes were constantly at war with each other as well, it wasn't exactly a peaceful nature loving time, even ignoring all of the human sacrifice. As a species, the cannibalism of other cultures and civilizations has certainly made us stronger, and without the progress from that, we most likely would have never reached a stage where we can be mostly sustainable and have peaceful collaboration. But, historically, it was rarely a benevolent act.

I know I'm way off topic at this point, but I feel it's an important thing nowadays. It's important for people to acknowledge that many historical acts were, in fact, terrible...but also realize that without those acts we wouldn't be in the privileged position we are in to be able to argue about it. The human story is filled with ungodly atrocities, but at least now you can copy an inactive player and keep your team together until vet.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiiebNenB0k


Also, do S*s have any grace period on retirement to get back the S* points or are the lost on the first game?
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Originally posted by Raid
relax cd, listen to some calming music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiiebNenB0k


I'm incredibly calm. I'm not depressed looking at the past, I find it fascinating. An inordinate amount of my free time is spent attempting to connect the dots on why things are the way they are. Whether that's human culture, animals, life in general, or cosmological bodies.

Legitimately in my happy place.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog


I know I'm way off topic at this point, but I feel it's an important thing nowadays. It's important for people to acknowledge that many historical acts were, in fact, terrible...but also realize that without those acts we wouldn't be in the privileged position we are in to be able to argue about it. The human story is filled with ungodly atrocities, but at least now you can copy an inactive player and keep your team together until vet.


Sure but if it makes you feel any better - we tend to only write down and record the really aweful stuff. No one writes down that Joe got his favorite niece her most wanted stuffed animal for Christmas. Maybe that's not as important as knowing the early Christians appropriated the holiday from the Romans. It's a big world out there plenty of good people. Also by and large our direction is forward in terms of treating each other better ,maybe not as fast as anyone would like , but hey 6 years in we have clones and I even got you a "clone factory" so better late than never.

 
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Originally posted by william78
Sure but if it makes you feel any better - we tend to only write down and record the really aweful stuff. No one writes down that Joe got his favorite niece her most wanted stuffed animal for Christmas. Maybe that's not as important as knowing the early Christians appropriated the holiday from the Romans. It's a big world out there plenty of good people. Also by and large our direction is forward in terms of treating each other better ,maybe not as fast as anyone would like , but hey 6 years in we have clones and I even got you a "clone factory" so better late than never.


On the flip side, though, the victors also write the history. The atrocities that we know about are being painted in a positive light by the people who walked away alive.

But yeah, I'm not particularly worried about the future, the same as I'm not worried about the past. The length of a human life is meaningless, I'm not going to live long enough to see any significant changes in either direction. The only thing anyone has is being comfortable and enjoying the life you have right now, and preferably doing it at as little expense of other people as possible.
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Originally posted by Corndog
The length of a human life is meaningless, I'm not going to live long enough to see any significant changes in either direction. The only thing anyone has is being comfortable


I'm sorry, but no.

You don't judge the value of a life relative to some grand, unfeeling narrative, and if anything it's the opposite. Life is meaningful because life is the very source of meaning.
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Originally posted by Corndog
I'm incredibly calm. I'm not depressed looking at the past, I find it fascinating. An inordinate amount of my free time is spent attempting to connect the dots on why things are the way they are. Whether that's human culture, animals, life in general, or cosmological bodies.

Legitimately in my happy place.


If ya listen to the song, it were a joke.

But seriously, about that S* grace period...
 
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Originally posted by Kvothe27
I'm sorry, but no.


I'm sorry, but yes.

Arguing with people on the internet isn't going to change the world. Unless you can convince Bezos and Elon to start paying their employees a livable wage, but they seem more concerned with leaving the planet than making sure their employees can eat. I'm all about small acts of kindness, but it isn't going to change the world, and the people with the power to potentially change the world seem uninterested. Real change happens over generations.

I'm all for the socialist revolution, where nobody goes hungry and everyone has a warm bed. The world isn't there yet, though, and I don't think it's an experiment most people are willing to die for at the moment.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
I'm all for the socialist revolution.


Comrade!
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
I'm sorry, but yes.

Arguing with people on the internet isn't going to change the world. Unless you can convince Bezos and Elon to start paying their employees a livable wage, but they seem more concerned with leaving the planet than making sure their employees can eat. I'm all about small acts of kindness, but it isn't going to change the world, and the people with the power to potentially change the world seem uninterested. Real change happens over generations.

I'm all for the socialist revolution, where nobody goes hungry and everyone has a warm bed. The world isn't there yet, though, and I don't think it's an experiment most people are willing to die for at the moment.


I have work in the morning, but I'll respond to this tomorrow. Could not disagree more (except about nobody going hungry and everyone having a warm bed).

In case I don't get around to it, I was going to say something along the lines of "stop using Bezos and Elon as an excuse - it's you that matters." Constant, small acts of kindness do change the world, and you're a fool if you think otherwise. If you're not leading by example yourself, you have no right to say a single word about what anyone else is doing, no matter how powerful.
 
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Originally posted by william78
Does this mean your in on the new game? Nothing like slowing down the Hawaii Bulls blitz attack like coaching your guys up on the overhand swat with the stick technique or deliberatly throwing the 10 lbs rubber ball at the head of the blitzing LB.


heh... I'm still perfecting my style of Zone. Like everyone is running Hybrid now but I was doing it back in the Man days so it doesn't hold my interest being not new to me. It was nice to remincesse though, especially seeing my start football today for the first time brought back memories.
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I'm all for the socialist revolution, where nobody goes hungry and everyone has a warm bed. The world isn't there yet, though, and I don't think it's an experiment most people are willing to die for at the moment.



Animal Farm was a great book.
 
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