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Xars
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Originally posted by Ace of Spades 7

The first season I started the team I decided to do it by pen and paper to save money. I couldn't do a fraction of the work I can do with Scout. Even now it takes me ages to prepare for games using Scout. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

I have no idea how people can coach several teams at one time. I'd have to quit my job! ... and then go back to pen and paper because I have no money.

Wow, full circle.


Originally posted by Cybertron
It’s all about templates and slight modifications.


This.

Though a lot of the best teams run the same one or two Defensive plays and just auto-pilot their season because they build doe those specific plays.

Scout Hawaii's D last season. Out of 2200 plays, Boss ran 4-3 Cover 1 Man Under 760 times. And that's without sorting by formation.

GLB2 Success is about matching builds to play calling best.
 
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Originally posted by Xars
This.

Though a lot of the best teams run the same one or two Defensive plays and just auto-pilot their season because they build doe those specific plays.

Scout Hawaii's D last season. Out of 2200 plays, Boss ran 4-3 Cover 1 Man Under 760 times. And that's without sorting by formation.

GLB2 Success is about matching builds to play calling best.


It's what I think Cdog and Bort "missed most" with not implementing coaches as player classes. You could have let the coaches as players assign gold, silver bronze, sets to certain opposition plays. Those bonuses giving you a large advantage when someone calls a speciifc offensive or defensive play - call it the video game result of weekly practice if you will.

You'd have the added wrinkle of some coaches having more slots for offensive or defensive plays with variable bonuses for those plays.

In any case would have been the perfect counter-balance against a team spamming the same offensive or defensive play while also adding some diversity to the game experience.
 
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Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
I used pen and paper too. I actually preferred it and didn’t like the idea of a scout tool.

I actually don't use Scout. I manually watch the games. I've used it before but soon as I stopped using it I got a lot better for some reason. 23-7 with no GLB scout aint bad y'know?
Edited by 4chanCitizen on May 18, 2021 06:40:57
 
Cybertron
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Originally posted by Xars
Out of 2200 plays, Boss ran 4-3 Cover 1 Man Under 760 times.


Jamelle Holieway would destroy 4-3 Cover 1 Man Under
 
o The Boss x
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People underestimate how important it is to build to scheme. We probably would've ran more diverse plays if I had more than 0 cares last season, but it was always fun to watch other teams try to run plays we'd run in similar situations and fall flat on their faces.
 
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Originally posted by william78
It's what I think Cdog and Bort "missed most" with not implementing coaches as player classes. You could have let the coaches as players assign gold, silver bronze, sets to certain opposition plays. Those bonuses giving you a large advantage when someone calls a speciifc offensive or defensive play - call it the video game result of weekly practice if you will.


They kinda did this with the Knowledge feature. If your players sees the same plays over and over, they will get better at stopping it. I also think they put some functionality in the game, where if an offense runs the same plays over and over in that game, the defense gets better at stopping it.
 
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Originally posted by 4chanCitizen

I actually don't use Scout. I manually watch the games. I've used it before but soon as I stopped using it I got a lot better for some reason. 23-7 with no GLB scout aint bad y'know?


I use scout to set up my defense, but watch replays to set up my offense.
 
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Originally posted by 4chanCitizen

I actually don't use Scout. I manually watch the games. I've used it before but soon as I stopped using it I got a lot better for some reason. 23-7 with no GLB scout aint bad y'know?


Its because your players arent the same type of players that other teams are using. Not to mention you have to watch and see if the plays were successfully stopped because of the actual call or just bad RNG for the other team.
 
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Originally posted by o The Boss x
People underestimate how important it is to build to scheme. We probably would've ran more diverse plays if I had more than 0 cares last season, but it was always fun to watch other teams try to run plays we'd run in similar situations and fall flat on their faces.


I've been preaching this exact thing over in the Build threads.
 
Cybertron
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Originally posted by o The Boss x
People underestimate how important it is to build to scheme.


Isn’t this common logic? Who would build players that don’t fit your scheme?
 
william78
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Originally posted by Cybertron
They kinda did this with the Knowledge feature. If your players sees the same plays over and over, they will get better at stopping it. I also think they put some functionality in the game, where if an offense runs the same plays over and over in that game, the defense gets better at stopping it.


Not to the degree im thinking. Player Knowledge is a passive skill - a coach with a variable setting punnishes spam when its predictable but also has the ability to create variance.
 
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Originally posted by Xars
Well I believe he was a friend of Rob. Not sure in real life, but Sov, Rob and others built those teams.

From the outside, I can't tell you who did what versus anyone else. That's a them question.

Rob is the only person to win all 6 Ladders in one season. And since we don't have 6 tiers anymore, no one can ever match that.




Alaskan Assassins started mostly as Rob but evolved into something between Rob and myself around the third season with some builds I had been screwing around with.

Bronx Bombers was largely a combination of Rob and Sov in which I eventually got in on at some point.

Rob and Sov were the only guys I'd work with outside my group of friends.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43

Alaskan Assassins started mostly as Rob but evolved into something between Rob and myself around the third season with some builds I had been screwing around with.

Bronx Bombers was largely a combination of Rob and Sov in which I eventually got in on at some point.

Rob and Sov were the only guys I'd work with outside my group of friends.


Didn’t you retire?
 
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Originally posted by bhall43

Alaskan Assassins started mostly as Rob but evolved into something between Rob and myself around the third season with some builds I had been screwing around with.

Bronx Bombers was largely a combination of Rob and Sov in which I eventually got in on at some point.

Rob and Sov were the only guys I'd work with outside my group of friends.


Another legend has appeared!
 
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So in the span of a week, we got posts from Adderfist, TxSteve and Bhall. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!
 
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