Warrior General Games

Originally posted by reddogrw
for a power back not in plateau yet it is

Nah, the other builds that were linked here as being so incredible had more fumbles by my age. Go back and look.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Yeah... um. look. As a Raider fan myself I hate to agree with the bashers here but Carrying is probably the 2nd most important skill to a PHB behind strength. It's not just about fumbles either. High carrying helps SA's like 'Power Through' fire more often and more effectively. When I built my first ever returner, I lowballed carrying so I could jack speed up to 170+ (was shooting for 180.. didn't quite make it). Once he hit plateau, his issues showed up. Not just some fumbles (not a ton but not off the charts either)... but he simply couldn't break a tackle because his carrying was too low. I had plenty if strength (for a returner) and thought that would solve the problem. It doesn't. For a PHB who's MAIN thing is to break tackle after tackle, not putting enough points into carrying is like trying to build a Speed WR with no catching. He's missing half of his most important skill.
You still have SP's left to spread around and training left to go... so getting Stamina and more carrying is still in your grasp. It will help. IMO, a Power back with less than 85 carrying is just not a good build.

90 is super easy to hit no matter what you're trying to do with the build. Shouldn't shoot for less than that no matter what experiment you're going with.

Originally posted by BeastModeRaider
Originally posted by reddogrw

for a power back not in plateau yet it is

Nah, the other builds that were linked here as being so incredible had more fumbles by my age. Go back and look.

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4585372 - 2 fumbles before plateau

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4585374 - he had 3

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4528293 - mediocre build, still only 10 his whole career, 3 before plateau

so yeah, I don't know what other people are telling you but power backs shouldn't be fumbling much before plateau

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
90 is super easy to hit no matter what you're trying to do with the build. Shouldn't shoot for less than that no matter what experiment you're going with.

Which is why I lowballed at 85. Personally, I'd want no less than 90 myself but you could get by with 85 if you really wanted those SP's spent elsewhere.

Originally posted by reddogrw
http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4585372 - 2 fumbles before plateau

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4585374 - he had 3

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4528293 - mediocre build, still only 10 his whole career, 3 before plateau

so yeah, I don't know what other people are telling you but power backs shouldn't be fumbling much before plateau

Ahem...

Originally posted by aaasahi
http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4349172
S39, 40, 42, 43 in WL.


9 fumbles before my age.

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
i cant believe i retired this dot and didnt save his name. what a joke.

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4511717

5.2 avg in WL and only 4 SAs fired. spin,hurdle,powerthrough and surge. hurdle fired constantly and this dot only had 60 jumping. 4 AEQ dot though. could ditch spin aeq/ce and go 2 BT% and a powerthrough piece and use CE for d4Y or something. save some skill points and train longer and the dot will look real good.

ps. fuck vision

7 fumbles at my age.

I told you to go back in the thread and look at the 'incredible' builds. They have tons of fumbles. Quit talking shit, fool.

Um... dude... they're in the World League which is why their fumble numbers are higher. Think of it like this;

World League is to football what the NFL is to REAL football.

All other leagues are, at best, College level in their skill sets.

In World League, if you do NOT bring a high enough quality dot two things will happen real quick.
#1, you won't get an offer from a World League team.
#2, if you DO get an offer (because they simply don't have any other option available), your dot will either spend 90% of it's life on the bench as an occasional backup and/or just be a body on Special Teams because they need one.

World League is f*ckin tough and weak dots don't live there. I feel pretty blessed to have had a few in that rarefied air.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Um... dude... they're in the World League which is why their fumble numbers are higher. Think of it like this;

World League is to football what the NFL is to REAL football.

All other leagues are, at best, College level in their skill sets.

In World League, if you do NOT bring a high enough quality dot two things will happen real quick.
#1, you won't get an offer from a World League team.
#2, if you DO get an offer (because they simply don't have any other option available), your dot will either spend 90% of it's life on the bench as an occasional backup and/or just be a body on Special Teams because they need one.

World League is f*ckin tough and weak dots don't live there. I feel pretty blessed to have had a few in that rarefied air.

Their fumbles were before World League.

Originally posted by BeastModeRaider
Their fumbles were before World League.

And your fumbles were in university,-national minor

Originally posted by Slocus
And your fumbles were in university,-national minor

Before World League.

Originally posted by BeastModeRaider


Before World League.


Originally posted by Dub ADD
^^^^

This dot has about 105 carry totalhttp://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4598317

That dot is going to get wrecked in Pro+ tbh

And you conveniently ignored the post above, which is a high carry pHB proving the point that carrying matters...A TON...fwiw , this dot has 0 eq in NF% and has a grand total of 1 fumble iirc

Much respect for trying something unconventional, but when that dot hits lvl68+ it is going to drop the ball every time it gets hit.

I've got more dots with high carry to prove my point, if you want to keep trying to convince yourself this will work. If not, nice troll you got going on...

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4580241 (ZERO fumbles prior to Pro)

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4568520 (93 carry on elusive dot, 1 fumble before playing in pro)

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4584958 (another 93 carry eHB, 1 fumble before pro)

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4595155 (101 carry, 3 fumbles before pro...2 of which were in RPE vs lvl79 dots)

I can dig up some of my recently retired WL pHBs and keep goin if you want. You got 3 choices...Keep trollin, load up on NF% gear and pray, or you can take that dot up the ladder so we can laugh at you later on. Your choice...

Originally posted by BeastModeRaider


Before World League.

TIL WL is equal to lolminors

Originally posted by Dub ADD
TIL WL is equal to lolminors

Don't lol, it could be here sooner than you think.

Never seen dub put so much work into a post. He really does love power backs

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
Never seen dub put so much work into a post. He really does love power backs

They're sexy

8 rush and 24 yards thru 3 games on a 0-3 team lolol

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